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The bolded is what I keep coming back to and I gotta be honest....the more interviews you read of voters, the more disheartening it is. I know i know it's just individual interviews and you can't make vast sweeping judgements on individual voters interviews, but...man, I really, really want to believe a set of polices focused on working class issues and a populist message of fighting back against the plutocracy and etc would be enough to swing these voters back, but the things these people are saying in these interviews are really disheartening because some of it does come off like it really is the i got mine now get fucked attitude. Which is something Trump and the whole right wing mediasphere has been pushing and making it seem cool and "edgy" to be that way and etc.

Idk...I agree with a lot of what you're saying but also am not convinced it would simply take dropping the corporate interests and gaining credibility on left wing issues would fix this. Maybe I'll be less depressed and have more optimism about that as an idea in the future but shit man, these people are saying some fucked up stuff in these interviews lol

And there is one aspect of this that you didn't touch on that I'd be curious to hear what you think, and it's all the fear mongering about socialism and communism and etc. Any time a Dem steps anywhere left of MAGA, it gets fear mongered as socialism and etc etc, and that shit seems to work in drumming up sentiment against those things. Trumpism seems to get let off the hook from its voters because a lot of it seems to be slightly suggesting (lying) that they're gonna help people, but really they're gonna be using the government to punish all the "others", and that's what's going to make your life better. Are enough of those folks able to be convinced that actually we can make your life better without crushing immigrants or trans people or etc? Or will they get fear mongered into that being "socialism" and whatever other dumbass stuff? And especially young white dudes. So many of them seem to have been brain poisoned by a right wing ecosystem that won't be going away. I don't know if there's a way to reverse that.

 

I think trying to actually build up working class solidarity is at least a start that could snowball into getting these people on board with the other things you want

 

Yeah I love when mega corps crunch their teams too

 

Yeah agreed it has to start there I think. I thought Biden was great on the unions thing but it always felt like it wasn't a focus. I think it needs to be a focus and really dive into labor issues and labor power and etc.

It's only local politics but one heartening thing for me has been sitting in on the special election forums for my local dems the last few nights and hearing pretty much every candidate talk about unions/their union history/membership/support for labor/etc. I trusted some of them more than others but it was clear that a lot of them at least realize how important it is.

 

What a lot of the exit polls and interviews have told me, and some of the reddest states passing "progressive" policies has told me is that for most people, we're not that far off in the things we want across the aisle. Sure, you have your diehard MAGA folks that are likely too far gone, but most people just want to be able to provide for their family and not worry about what will happen if an unforeseen financial situation hits. That's why I think building up that working class solidarity and making people realize that both the elitist Dems and Republicans and one and the same. It's going to take time to rebuild that solidarity after what 50 years of neoliberalism has done to this country, but fuck man, it's got to start somewhere

 

the tech industry is so beautiful :,)

 

ch...chemsex?

 

yeah the chemtrails that make you trans

 

Heard on the Majority Report that Ossoff is being talked about as setting up a run for President in the next election. Speculation was that among other things his vote to stop the arms transfers was a signal (along with being the correct vote) for that being the case.

 

Random q, anyone know how often you should get boosters for Novavax?

 

It's anecdotal and I have no proof, but it seems like everyone around me at work has been getting sick with "colds" left and right and I've been fine. Feel like my COVID and flu shots are helping me out hah. I was even locked in a conference room shoulder to shoulder with 20 people for a week and at least two of them got very sick.

 

didn't he squash a rail strike like very early on in his presidency?

feels like labor issues are something they're trying to straddle appeasing workers and corporations, and you gotta be all in otherwise it just feels like lip service

 

I think once a year is fine, that's what I've been doing

 

Annually. It's become a part of set of fall shots I get with the flu shot that knocks me on my ass for 36 hours.

 

Haha oh dang! Yeah I tried to get my tdap at the same time and they strongly suggested I only ever get two vaccines at a time. Felt fine after thankfully. The Pfizer COVID vax definitely made me sick though

 

Every 4 to 6 hours

 

It's been a while since I read up on it, but iirc the union voted to accept the contract after they got a bunch of stuff they wanted

 

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/06/health/covid-217-shots-hypervaccination-lancet/index.html

 

Yeah it was not well reported that they actually went back and negotiated and the Union won a majority of what they were asking for.

 

Have had a "cold" for over a week now, my girlfriend and her sister got it worse than I did. I am pretty much over it but it just rears its head at night when I am trying to go to bed now.

 

close that's the xanny you'll need after RFK makes them illegal