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the way people have been discussing this issue makes me lose faith in humanity every single day. it’s all gone I have no more faith left.

 

David Frum pay my bills challenge

 

It got kind of blown out of proportion as I kept responding to increasingly emotional responses because folks in here love Tlaib. I maintain what I originally said and did my best to articulate why I felt how I felt. I don’t think she is an effective congressperson, nor do I think that she was a net positive in the country’s decision between Trump and Harris. She has admirable moral clarity.

 

I’m not emotional because I love tlaib I’m emotional because there is a genocide happening that our leaders are supporting and if that doesn’t make you emotional I sincerely have to wonder if you’re even on the same side as us

 

I think the political system we have is indefensible, and that in part is because its purpose is to grind things to a halt. This is the reason why we should be abandoning it and building something different. Either way, I don’t think “getting things done” in Congress is a good metric for a person’s value, or a good excuse to dismiss them as an “outrage candidate.” Rashida wants to do a lot of good things that I would like to see done. The fact she can’t find more people who want to be involved in those things isn’t her fault, it is actually my belief that it is the purpose of the Democratic Party to stop them from happening. Conversely, the fact that most of Congress wants to do bad things that she doesn’t choose to get involved with is a good thing about her. Either way, I’d much sooner indict that intuition than her.

I don’t know if they love Palestinian blood on their hands to the tune of hundreds of thousands of people, but they believe enough in the importance of allowing Israel to do it that they allowed it to hurt their chances in the election and turn off people in their party who should be allies, like Tlaib, as well as constituencies who historically back them. Either way, an indictment of them, not Tlaib.

If being a member of a Party meant I had to endorse the people doing a genocide of my people and be a “team player”… that sounds so fucking goofy on its face that I can’t even entertain it as serious, I’m sorry to sound rude about it. If that’s genuinely how you feel, then yes we disagree on a fundamental human level.

If you - personally - were a lawmaker in a Party, and the Party you were in helped to exterminate your friends, family, neighbors, people in your faith, etc. I would think you were heroic if you stood up to them and a spineless rat if you supported them. If you are someone who feels like it would be your duty to support the Party regardless, then again yes you’re correct we disagree.

 

and it’s hilarious being called emotional by a guy who said “enjoy trump”

 

oh god I didn’t even see the follow up

 

I read this thread and this reaffirms my belief the current mindset of the average American voter is populist vibes > populist policy.

They will vote for Trump because he FEELS like a non-politician that is not backed by special interests while ignoring the fact that Trump is a literal politician who is backed by special interests. But it doesn't matter to them because he feels like he isn't.

 

Not much more exhausting to me than people who make a George Carlin standup bit their entire political ideology. “It’s all fake, you’re all sheep, I’m the smart one who gets that it’s all the corporations maaaannnnnn”

 

Thank god someone came in here and told us that actually Kamala was the lesser of two evils. We've been in here since fall 2015 discussing little else than the lesser of two evils, but I really appreciate Matt dropping by to introduce us to the concept

 

Oh god it’s another Freud

 

no Matt is literate at least

 

I’ve been right since 2015, unfortunately

 

Matt did not get left behind but in a good way

 

lmao. sick own Ethan. Got em

 

Both condescending mmm akshually posters that have started their reputation in here by doing a drive by fart of a post on Palestine and then acting surprised when people call them out

 

being condescended to about the lesser of two evils in 2024 is going to be my joker moment

 

Remember that one guy months back who kept reporting people to the mods and was mad when they found out the mods didn't give a shit? That was pretty funny.

 

We gotta give Matt some cred I remember him from AP

 

I’ll do it for free too

 

Are you talking about me because I’m pretty sure I reported Freud for being pro genocide like five times