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I love Superman as a character but i haven't really read many good books about him. Plus i don't really seem to like his villains.

 

Black Science was the one book of his that I am still reading that took me longest to get into. Low and Deadly Class I was enamored with from the jump.

Tokyo Ghost, I just couldn't get beyond issue 2. I might swing back around to it soon with it having ended.

 

Tokyo Ghost is probably my favourite comic book so I'd definitely recommend you giving it another go. It seems a lot of people had the same reaction as you though so maybe it's just me.

 

I also got the chance to read Curse Words #1 and Ether #1.

Of the two, I think I am going to stick with Curse Words for a few more issues to see where it goes. It was a little more fun and whimsical than Ether. And the first issue just didn't really sell me on the premise of Ether. But the David Rubin art in Ether was wonderful.

I think the last #1 I have stowed away to read is Grass Kings.

 

Is anyone reading Royal City?

 

Didn't like the first two issues of Tokyo Ghosts either. I plan on revisiting it eventually, but it's pretty low on the list. Same with Ody-C. Not sure why i want into it given my love of the source material.

 

I read issue #1.

 

trade waiting. it looks amazing and i love lemire.

 

I wasn't blown away by it but it was an intriguing enough concept that I'll give it a couple of more issues.

 

That was my initial reaction, actually. Almost to the word haha.

But I think I have read it like 3 times now, and it has grown on me considerably. So I am in for at least the first 6 issues or so. Magical realism is right in my wheelhouse.

 

People who hate Superman have zero understanding of what makes superheroes special, and also likely little understanding of art and storytelling, tbh.

I'm not reading either, but I feel like reviewing a Bennett/Epting Batwoman series should be mandatory, lol.

 

Favorite superman books?

 

Just to name a few of mine:

All-Star Superman
Superman: For All Seasons
Superman: Secret Identity
Superman: Rebirth
Superman and the Legion of Super-heroes
Superman: Escape from Bizarro World
Lex Luthor: Man of Steel
Superman: For the Man Who Has Everything
Superman: Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?

 

They also must not have listened to our All-Star podcast!!

I agree. I'll likely do Batwoman first. But I have been really enjoying Super Sons.

 

lol thats quite a stretch. my feelings towards superman are honestly more ambivalent than anything. he's just kind of there. to say someone has little understanding of storytelling because of that is absurd. tbf my critique of comic art is pretty shallow so you got me there haha.

 

Listen to @scottlechowicz, who's been an active Superman fan longer than I have; my deeper appreciation of the character mostly happened over the last few years. I second basically everything on his list except for a couple I haven't read yet.

I've gotta second All-Star Superman especially, which is one of my favorite comics of all time. That and Kingdom Come (which is a big DC universe story but does very effectively feature Superman as a central character) are two of my three favorite DC stories of all time and both do great by the character.

If I have to add something else besides what was said above, I also really like Superman: Kryptonite. It's not a story that'll win over any new Superman fans, I don't think, but once that fandom has been birthed, it's definitely worth being on the list of comics to eventually read.

 

Off hand, I can't think of many Supes villains I love.

Lex is 50/50.
Brainiac is great.
Mxyzpltk is always an interesting time.

And... Ummm... Yeah.

 

lulz. I know that you don't actually outright hate the character, but I couldn't resist the opportunity to lay into those who do. I stand by everything I said. People who are ambivalent are really Superman fans who haven't bloomed yet, and people who outright hate him have an understanding of either storytelling or the real world that I'm actively opposed to.

 

Zod, Bizarro, Darkseid, Mongul, and Parasite are some that I enjoy as well.

 

i gotcha. hahaha. i was sitting there thinking you weren't playing games anymore and the gloves were coming off. like whaaat this was supposed to be fun.

 

I really liked what i read of All Star Superman in terms of the writing but Frank Quietly's art just doesn't do it for me. I still need to finish it though.

 

Quitely's art of Jupiter's Legacy is awesome. Love the way he draws old people.

 

Quitely is an all time favorite of mine.

I'd like to snag one of his original pages from AS Superman to add to my artist collection. But that seems unlikely.

 

I feel silly referencing myself, lol, but on @Deanna's podcast, I noted that a lot of people seem to view superhero storytelling in an almost sports-esque light, where the best stories are ones with equally matched protagonists and antagonists fighting it out for our entertainment. That's fine and something I totally love myself, but when forced on all superhero stories, it's far too limiting and honestly a tad immature.

This comes up a lot when I see Superman discussed, and also often with other characters like Wolverine. It's the whole "overpowered" argument. How do you make a compelling story with a character who has so little to fear physically? All-Star Superman writer Grant Morrison had such a perfect response when asked about that: Use emotional conflict! Duh! lol. A genuinely well-intended and nearly all-powerful Superman is still endlessly compelling when written well because his struggle is with how to bring out the best in society, plus interpersonal conflict. Ageless, ever-healing Wolverine is still compelling, not because metal claws severing flesh is cool, but because he's a world-weary, (literally) tortured soul who wants to live the simple life that was stolen from him.

Anyways, I love superheroes way too much.

 

My b. I see how I may have given that impression, lol. The gloves totally did come off, but not against you!

Wow. You don't like the modern masters that are Frank Quitely and Tim Sale, but you somehow like the hot mess that is Humberto Ramos? If you weren't also a fellow big Bendis fan, I'd totally have to disown you for these obviously objectively bad opinions, but Team Bendis needs you.