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General Politics Discussion [ARCHIVED] • Page 16

Discussion in 'Politics Forum' started by Melody Bot, Mar 13, 2015.

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  1. Dominick

    Prestigious Prestigious

    Re: Clintons
    Re: liberalism and truths for which they have no answers, other than invoking a politics of fear

    "The Ricky Ray Rector case has been mentioned from time to time as a controversial Clinton act. But it’s important to be clear about just want Clinton did: he deliberately had a hallucinating disabled man killed, in an execution so callous it made even the warden queasy. He personally ensured the execution of a mental child so as not to appear weak. This is an unthinkably monstrous act.....The contemporary political implications can be left to others to dispute. But it is a matter of historical fact that Bill Clinton used black people in the most despicable way possible, doing everything he could to convince them he cared while doing nothing but using their lives to advance himself politically. They trusted him, and he threw them in jail by the millions. As Michael Eric Dyson has explained, Clinton “exploited black sentiment because he knew the rituals of black culture,” then “exploited us like no president before him.” Nobody in the history of American race relations from slavery to the present has ever so cruelly manipulated the aspirations of the black population, has ever so heartlessly tormented them with empty promises while happily destroying their lives."

    Bill Clinton Has Always Been This Person | Current Affairs
     
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  2. Dirty Sanchez

    Prestigious Prestigious

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    Just horrible...
     
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  3. Whatjuliansaid

    News on once the clouds are gone. Prestigious

  4. MyBestFiend

    go birds Supporter

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  5. thethingis

    Meet me in Montauk. Prestigious

    Wasn't he deadline for new registration in like, October in NY?
     
  6. kailaincolor

    Newbie

    the deadline for new registration in NY was March 25th. if you were already registered and wanted to switch parties the deadline was October, which is absurd.
     
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  7. thethingis

    Meet me in Montauk. Prestigious

    Right, I knew it was something crazy like that.
     
  8. MexicanGuitars

    Chorus’ Expert on OTIP Track #8 Supporter

    I saw the mention of Michael Dyson above in regards to Clinton exploiting black supporters throughout his presidency and wanna recommend his book "Come Hell or High Water: Hurricane Katrina and the Color of Disaster". Had no idea he was teaching at DePaul when he made that comment either.
     
  9. undonesweater

    Regular

    hillary romney clinton folks
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  10. David87

    Prestigious Prestigious

    I think she made similar comments about Obama and his health care plans in the 2008 primary.

    While it sucks that some of these plans that get released aren't fully fleshed out, the truth is most of those details get figured out during the actual legislating.
     
  11. tkamB

    God of Wine Prestigious

    Since it hasn't been posted in here yet...

     
  12. Malatesta

    i may get better but we won't ever get well Prestigious

    yeah i saw that today and was boggled how many people did that go through who okay'd it????
     
  13. great bit imo
     
  14. St. Nate

    LGBTQ Supporter (Lets Go Bomb TelAviv Quickly) Prestigious

    white people and their white people time.
     
  15. Ferrari333SP

    Prestigious Supporter

    "House Speaker Paul Ryan plans a speech this afternoon to say he won't be the GOP presidential nominee under any circumstances, an aide tells CNN.

    The move comes as speculation grows over a possible Ryan bid at a deadlocked Republican convention"
     
  16. Dean

    Trusted Prestigious


    Gross.
     
  17. Letterbomb31

    Trusted Prestigious

    The fact that he was kicked out of Parliament or that he called the Prime Minister "Dodgy Dave"?
     
  18. Chaplain Tappman

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  19. tkamB

    God of Wine Prestigious

    Can't really do anything but laugh at shit like this at this point:

    Bernie Sanders won one more delegate in Colorado than first projected after the Colorado Democratic Party admitted this week that it misreported the March 1 caucus results from 10 precinct locations.

    The party discovered the discrepancy a week after the caucus but did not correct the public record.

    Hillary Clinton's campaign discussed the error with state party officials last week, but the Sanders campaign apparently didn't realize the issue until being informed Monday evening by The Denver Post.
     
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  20. Dean

    Trusted Prestigious

    Pretty much everything about that clip except what Skinner said.
    Yep. He is a national treasure
     
  21. crunchprank

    crunchprank.net Prestigious

    Just a heads up because I've seen some very misleading news article headlines regarding what NC's governor just did, but it really didn't solve anything.
     
  22. Dominick

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  23. Malatesta

    i may get better but we won't ever get well Prestigious

    the fact that he keeps trying to spin it as "this bill is just being misconstrued" like smh dude cmon it's just a shit bill back the fuck up
     
  24. clucky

    Prestigious Supporter

    Gotta love the people who are somehow blaming Clinton for this.
     
  25. Dominick

    Prestigious Prestigious

    It has become sort of a talking point that the black community itself wanted the crime bill. That is a selective interpretation by white liberals who heard what they wanted to hear:

    "
    Flash forward to the Clinton era. As soon as Chuck Schumer, Joseph R. Biden Jr. and others introduced their bipartisan crime bill in September of 1993, groups representing black communities pushed back. The N.A.A.C.P. called it a “crime against the American people.”

    While supporting the idea of addressing crime, members of the Congressional Black Caucus criticized the bill itself and introduced an alternative bill that included investments in prevention and alternatives to incarceration, devoted $2 billion more to drug treatment and $3 billion more to early intervention programs. The caucus also put forward the Racial Justice Act, which would have made it possible to use statistical evidence of racial bias to challenge death sentences.

    Given the history of selective hearing, what followed was no surprise. Black support for anti-crime legislation was highlighted, while black criticism of the specific legislation was tuned out. The caucus threatened to stall the bill, but lawmakers scrapped the Racial Justice Act when Republicans promised to filibuster any legislation that adopted its measures.

    In final negotiations, Democratic leadership yielded to Republicans demanding that prevention (or “welfare for criminals” as one called it) be sliced in exchange for their votes. Senator Robert Dole insisted that the focus be “on cutting pork, not on cutting prisons or police.” The compromise eliminated $2.5 billion in social spending and only $800 million in prison expenditures."

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/04/1...lly-endorse-the-1994-crime-bill.html?referer=
     
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