Logan (James Mangold, March 3 2017) Movie • Page 10

Gotcha. The girl with the Poison Ivy-ish powers was pretty cool, haha.

 

I cried... twice.

 

One thing I really liked about this film is, as much as it rose above the previous films, it still gave both those films and the comics themselves a lot of respect, even in places where it really didn't need to.

The conversation early on about the first X-Men, the Xavier freak outs inspired by X2, the dog tags and adamantium bullet from Origins, the sword on the wall from The Wolverine... It'd be easy and deserved to throw in a joke about Origins (it was funny when Deadpool did it), but this movie still treating that terrible movie as a piece of Logan's story somehow felt really appropriate for this finale for Jackman's character.

Even when it did kinda make fun of the comics (when Logan yells at Laura in the hotel room), it's done with more reverence than Singer's "yellow spandex" jab in the first film. It's clear that this world doesn't work like that one and shouldn't, but it's also tastefully shown that those comics have a place, and that this film wouldn't exist without it.

People will focus on the way that this separates itself from what's come before, and that's fair, but it's also completely a love letter to the entire X-Men brand, and I love that about it.

 

Going to see this tonight, and I'm debating with friends on whether we should do Imax or regular. Is this worth seeing on the bigger screen?

 

gotta check this out. My buddy said this is one of the best superhero movies!

 

I thought this was great, but I don't think it needed the R rating to tell that story. The blood and f-bombs were pretty gratuitous and I get going all in if you can, but it comes off as more of a marketing gimmick than a necessity. X-23 was great and I would love to eventually see her as Wolverine in the main movies similar to the current comics run.

 

Yea...

I'm not sure why this felt more like a gimmick than Deadpool when it comes to the R rating. The violence made sense for the character, yet it felt like overkill after awhile. By the time they got to the hotel scene, I was pretty much over the extreme violence. I also thought Xavier swearing so much was weird.

 

Wife and I are planning to see this in the next day or so. Can't wait.

 

This isn't here or there but I've always read your name as "a type of speedo" but it's just now occurred to me you mean "one who models speedos"

 

I read it "a speedo motel" for the longest time.

 

20th Century Fox cancelled Logan indefinitely here. Fml.

 

That never occurred to me haha. But yes, one who models.

 

Xavier swearing so much definitely got to me more than the violence. I was kind of indifferent to the violence - it was what it was. It didn't need to be that graphic or excessive but it didn't bother me that it was.

 

I mean, it didn't bother me. But by the hotel scene I was like, "I get it! You're rated R, good for you!"

When I watch a movie, excessive gore/violence is pretty damn low on the list of things I am hoping for when I see a movie. Not because it bothers me, but it just doesn't really interest me enough to be a big motivator in making me enjoy something.

I have some more thoughts, but I gotta focus on work. Will post more later.

 

I'm the same in that it's not something that I'm looking for. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts (and others). The overall film (in terms of the story) was one of the most enjoyable I've seen for a while.

 

Only part I thought felt out of place was wolvie getting flashed in the beginning

 

I thought that the brutality and ultra-violence were almost necessary to show what Wolverine's claws were fully capable of.

 

Yeah, the random boobies were the only R-rated aspect that I thought was a bad decision taking me out of the film; at least it was early on. Besides that, I thought all the R-rated content added to the film a lot more than it distracted. A PG-13 version of this would've worked, but it would've been a lesser film.

And I'm in the vast minority of people who thinks Deadpool would've been better at PG-13.

 

I think Xavier's present state and the fact that almost all the mutants are gone gives him a pretty good reason to want to swear that much. Maybe it only felt so weird to us because up until this point this incarnation of the character had only existed in PG-13 movies.

I also feel like the brutality consistently added to the tension throughout the film. Watching Logan claw through someone's skull didn't have a gradually lessened impact on me as the movie went on. And the way that one kid shattered that one dude's frozen arm into bloody bits was a pretty good reminder that the brutality wasn't limited to just claws, but was ever-present in this world.

Deadpool's violence and profanity was definitely more, what's the word, gratuitous? self-indulgent? than it was adding to the story, but I didn't mind it. Part of the fun was having everything be so over the top. On the other hand, I feel like with Logan, these things only added to the realism of the otherwise fantastical narrative.

 

Plus, Xavier has dropped that good ol' "f bomb" before, in DOFP, when he was a physical and emotional mess at seemingly his lowest point after losing most of his students. So, there's kinda precedent for this film's Xavier.

 

I just rewatched the Deadpool teaser to make sure, Logan is playing at the theater by the phone booth where he's changing. Is it too far-fetched to think they may have pulled a Tarantino on us and Logan is a movie within a movie, and therefore not part of the DoFP/Apocalypse timeline? Or is it just another random case of Deadpool breaking the fourth wall?

Also, what's with the Firefly posters? FOX just reminding Whedon that, hey, the ball's in your court now? Firefly Reboot In Consideration At Fox

The version of the teaser I found online is longer than what I saw in the theater.

 

a lot of Xavier's dialogue in this would also work as Avery Bullock dialogue

 

I pictured this during the first scene with him rolling around

 

Wait, what?

 

People are thinking that the Firefly posters in the background of the Deadpool teaser means Nathan Fillion could be playing Cable.