Logan (James Mangold, March 3 2017) Movie • Page 9

My opinion might not be the most valid because I've never really been critical of any of the X-men films or MCU films. Hell, I even enjoyed Origins.

But damn I cannot even describe my feelings after seeing this one. It was amazing. My wife, who I have to drag along to all these movies on premiere night, was emotional about it.

 

What event are they alluding to that Charles was responsible for the death of a lot of X-Men?

Loved this so much but I was taken out of it for about 10 minutes halfway through when some dude two rows up pulls out his phone and dexudes to read the plot on the wikipedia page for several minutes.

 

And did anyone else not get the Deadpool 2 teaser?

 

Tbh I can't imagine watching this one first. A big part of why this film was so powerful for me was because I've literally grown up with these characters, I would've been like 7 or 8 years old when I saw the first film back in 2000. I just can't imagine the events of this movie having as much impact if you're not familiar with at least some of the previous movies. I'd say go watch X-Men 1, 2 & 3, The Wolverine and X-Men: Days of Future Past.

 

This film really puts a dampener on the end of Days of Future Past doesn't it? In that movie they went to all that effort to prevent a really bleak future for mutants, and then it turns out to be really bleak anyway haha

 

These videos do a decent job of explaining the timeline if you want to watch Logan but haven't seen any of the other X-Men movies

 

I think I already have Deadpool fatigue.

 

Hugh Jackman Nearly Quit After X-Men Origins: Wolverine

 

I would have considered quitting too. That movie was really bad.

 

Seeing this in a few hours. All the positive comments in here have me super excited.

 

Knowing nothing about Wolverine, I now wanna read all of these!

Maybe these stories will be what gets me into the MU!

PS-love all you!

 

Since your DC tastes lean toward gritty characters like Batman, I could totally see Wolverine being one of the characters you dig in the Marvel universe. The iconic Weapon X comic described here is written basically as a sci-fi horror/slasher story from the perspective of the organization that captured him; you should totally pick that up!

 

Saw it in IMAX 2D last night and it was incredible! I really want to see it again.

 

I thought this was pretty good. Totally a breath of fresh air from the typical superhero fare. I do agree with @Nathan that the violence did wear a bit thin for me after the initial visceral reaction I had seeing Wolverine's unadulterated brutality, but I also know that Wolverine's character calls for that kind of violence. Maybe I just don't find that aspect of Wolverine that interesting in terms of character.

Mangold's direction was nothing particularly special or revolutionary, but I also understand that within the confines of the studio blockbuster system, it's pretty admirable that he was able to make the closest thing the genre has had to a character piece.

Overall, I got everything I wanted out of this, and hope it inspires more studio executives to let more creative filmmakers try a hand at making their own superhero movies that eschew from the typical formula.

Also X-23 fucking rules and I love that there weren't any Spanish subtitles. I could understand everything she was saying but I wonder if others were lost? In any case, Mangold doesn't hold your hand at all through the course of this film, and I commend him for that.

 

Also this was low-key the most political superhero movie since The Dark Knight and I didn't really expect that but was pleasantly surprised.

 

Winter Soldier?

 

That's a good point. I think the overall marvel-ification of that film (I really enjoy it nonetheless) dampens the actual political statements they were trying to express. For sure a film with political messaging, but it was a little more like, "oh hey, the government can be evil too," without as much nuance as I think Logan or TDK offered.

Of course at the end of the day, these are properties based off men in tights (I say that as a die-hard Marvel zombie), so any political or intellectual elements that manage to make it into these things are refreshing.

 

Saw it last night and my goodness did that give me a sad. It was nice to see a more down to earth and mature superhero film like that. I cried so much in it. I honestly almost cried the first time you saw Charles because it was just depressing to see someone so powerful turn into that. The only gripe I really had was how a little underwhelming Pierce and Rice felt. But seriously that was great in so many ways. It felt like a western with The Last of Us influences more than a superhero action flick.

 

Logan Director James Mangold Defends Film’s Ultraviolence

 

Absolutely loved this.

The "daddy" wrecked me, man

 

Just got out of seeing it a second time, and the ending was just as powerful.

 

I wasn't able to hear Charles' and Logan's last words. I think Logan's was something like "Charles, so this is what it feels like," but I completely missed Charles' Can someone help out? In spoiler tags, obviously.

 

It was something like

"this was a great day, I didn't deserve it."
There was a bit more, but that is the core of the meaning.

 

Maybe you could answer this, were the other kids in the comics as well or just created for the film?

 

I know that the lead kid, Rictor, is in the comics, albeit not quite in the same. I'm not super familiar with him, but I know that he's in Peter David's really cool 2005 series, which I still need to read.

In the comics, Laura was the only kid developed by the organization that made her. They did start to create more clones after her success, but they were destroyed before becoming fully formed when she escaped. (Spoilers, kinda, I guess? lol.)