Write Better Songs (Encore Episode 144) Podcast

When I think of albums that artists did as their experimental album that ended up missing the mark and hurting them a lot I always think of The Ataris 'Welcome The Night'. I really like a lot of that album, but when it came out it was met with such a huge disappointment in almost every way. Also that A Static Lullaby album Faso Latido is another that comes to mind.

Side-note: I really want Jesse to produce another Man Overboard album. If that band ever does another album I hope it is with him.

 

Yeah 'Welcome The Night' pretty much ruined The Ataris career for the most part. They were huge with 'So Long Astoria' and the drastic change to 'Welcome The Night' just wasn't what fan wanted to hear from them I guess. I agree, it had some good songs though. I saw them a few years ago at a tiny venue in Salt Lake, like this place is basically a shed converted into a venue. Talking to Kris he seemed pretty bummed about the reception of that album, and they didn't play any songs from it at all.

 

Going to be my first Encore episode in a while. Really interested to hear you guys talk about Based on a True Story. That album should have been huge

 

Jesse always has some great insight, enjoy the Noise Creators podcast. I had some dealings with Johnny while booking some time through them for my band, he's a great guy as well.

 

man this makes me miss Off The Record Podcast

 

This was a fun one. Hope you all enjoy!

 

Sick Cute Is What We Aim For burn haha.

 

Really enjoyed this conversation. Great episode

 

Incredible. Love seeing (hearing?) two of my favorite podcast hosts converge.

 

Now I'm curious... which FOB/TBS/RJA songs have the same chorus?

 

I tried searching this too! haha, someone plz help

 

Never listened to RJA, so can't help there, but the choruses of FOB's "Patron Saint of Liars and Fakes" and TBS's "Cute Without the 'E'" have a very similar melody.

 

Guessing it's face down by RJA

 

Those are the correct songs.

Thanks for all the kind words yall, this was super fun!

 

Hey, Jesse is in the house! Found some time away from recording/mixing for us.

Jason, have you considered doing any sort of badge/banner for certain official accounts on here? I suppose there is nothing stopping anyone from creating a profile as someone that could confuse folks. Just a thought now that I see Jesse's post.

 

Loved this one, really insightful. Any scene bands could really benefit from this ep. Usually not a book reader but I may give this one a shot!

 

This was a good episode don't get me wrong. However, this is yet another reminder for band's and music creators to take their work/craft seriously. Really working to write good songs and to listen and learn from folks in the industry when the opportunities present themselves. In a way, it's kind of sad that people need to still be reminded, but it is what it is. The idea of going to work with someone to produce/mix your record and proceed to not listen or be open to suggestions is mind blowing to me. I'm sure there are discussions of the expectations of both sides so when a suggestion or new idea to try comes up it should not be an insult. I don't know, I'm done ranting haha.

 

Yeah there's a verified profile option. I'll add it to Jesse. Thanks!

 

This is a great episode, my favourite in a while. Loved to hear the insight Jesse brought, and I liked that it made this episode a little different.

Also, after researching, it turns out Jesse worked on of my favourite records, I Wish I Could Stay Here. So that's really cool. Gonna go check out the podcasts he presents too.

 

I'll definitely try and make sure to have @Jesse Cannon on again in the future if he'd like. It was a blast.

 

my favourite episode in a while. awesome to switch it up

 

Always down!

 

I absolutely despised it for about 5 years and now I come back to it all the time.