Marvel Cinematic Universe Movie • Page 457

And then Doom 360 no scopes him.

Title card appears that reads: Avengers Doomsday

 

Doom would never deign to "360 no scope" an enemy. Such actions are beneath him. When Doom destroys you, he will do it in full view, so you understand just how badly you miscalculated.

 

That’s fair. Kang will probably die 7 minutes into the film instead of 5 because of this

 

He posted that he has an accommodation meeting, so it looks someone has reached out to him.

 

I was talking to some people about the possible team ups in Doomsday. I think it will be structured similarly to Infinity War with 3 groups focusing on different tasks. Anything more than 3 groups would involve a lot of back-and-forth, while less than 3 groups wouldn’t give characters enough time to shine. Due to it working in Infinity War, that’s why I think they’ll go for it here.

Group 1 - Earth-based protectors. Thunderbolts and Avengers (Cap, Spider-Man, Shang-Chi, Wong, Daredevil, She-Hulk, Ant-Man). I think Kate, Cassie, and Kamala would be in this group. Their main objective will be fighting Doom’s Masters of Evil.

Group 2 - Supernatural ppl protecting America Chavez. Doctor Strange, Clea, Wiccan (was recently rumored that Agatha’s ghost appears in the film so perhaps she could be the one to link them together), Vision, Speed. Could also either include Scarlet Witch or be the group that confronts her if the rumors are true that she makes a deal with Doom

Group 3 - Out of time group that focuses solely on stopping Doom himself. Fantastic Four, Deadpool, Wolverine, TVA, Loki, perhaps other Fox characters

With a Champions show in the making, I don’t think they’ll have them all group up together in the Avengers films. Having small team-ups between them would be good to generate hype for an actual full team-up.

 

Nah, I think if anything the new blood would bail the old guard out in some way, as the new generation of heroes has been a huge theme of this arc. I don't think splitting them up makes sense.

 

I think the new blood could still do that in the teams they are working with. Having the Champions form before their own show feels like the Avengers forming in Thor before the first Avengers film. Splitting them up and showing them do well in different situations could show that they have the ability to be as versatile as the rest.

 

Apparent plot details of what was Shang-Chi 2 before Majors was fired. Some of it seems plausible, but also bloated. If any of this is true, it’s good that Kang is no longer the focus of a Shang-Chi sequel, although, I like the idea of Agents of Atlas fighting him. I’ll spoiler tag it in case any of it is still used for Doomsday, being that the details do include the outcome of Kang Dynasty and a crucial death that I could see still being used for Doomsday.

- Pre-production title was Shang-Chi and the Wreckage of Time.

- Production was to begin in 2025 for a possible 2026 or 2027 release.

- Written and directed by Destin Daniel Cretton, who also directed and co-wrote the first movie.

- Simu Liu and Awkwafina confirmed to return.

- Janora, a female Iron Fist from ancient China who will be introduced in the animated series Eyes of Wakanda and was planned make her live-action debut in the film

- Shang-Chi and the Agents of Atlas (a team of Chinese superheroes) are sent by He Who Remains on an important mission through time to try and stop Beyonder Kang as he reshapes reality

- Tony Leung returning as Shang Chi's father Wenwu was on the table.

- Film would’ve began in Battleworld, a world created by Beyonder Kang from the wreckage of dead universes and The Void. He Who Remains would reveal he was witnessing the epic battle of Prime Kang (Beyonder Kang/Quontumania Kang) vs Immortus and The Council of Kangs, Lokis demise and the eventual destruction of the Mutliverse. He Who Remains has been watching every iteration of the Kang Mutliversal War and is hurt that so many innocent souls on the Sacred Timeline have been killed and suffered at the hands of his variants.

- He Who Remains wants to help the heroes take back what was destroyed by Beyonder Kang. His plan is to restart the Mutliverse (aka the soft reboot that was always planned) and creates the relics (10 rings and Nega Bands). He created these weapons and strategically placed them in the new Multiverse cycle on Earth-616 to help the heros win the Mutliversal War and eventually that is how He Who Remains won every iteration of the Mutliversal Kang War.

- This was always He Who Remains plan from the start. He knew EVERYTHING that would happen, including his Kang variants eventually getting out again, Loki God of Stories, Not only that he EVEN knew that this wouldn’t be enough to stop his variants and eventually the Council would attack Earth-616, so he sent the relics where one day Shang-chi would get the 10 rings and Kamala would one day get the Nega-Bands.

I could see Marvel liking the idea of involving the MCU’s OG mcguffins (ten rings) in such a way.

 

Sounds terrible

 

Yeah, sounds forced and would basically feel like an extended prologue to Kang Dynasty.

 

So the theory I’ve been seeing most is that this could be Hiddleston.

 

Plz

 

I really do not care for anymore Loki interference but I know it’s inevitable. If he does make an appearance in F4 hopefully it’s just a couple minutes

 

Another theory is Cumberbatch, which I suppose would also make sense from an Illuminati angle, or just the general Multiverse angle.