2025 NFL Draft • Page 8

Jeanty does rule I just feel like jags are closer to a chargers situation where they ought to take a more premium position like OT if they’re picking that high

 

idk I just think a bad team taking a RB in the top 5 is terrible asset management, but if you guys want it go for it I guess

 

Right like the thing someone said about Saquon awhile back, a good RB has a bigger effect on a good team than a bad one

 

Sucks having a team doing so poorly cause it’s hard to see the positives - Walker Little is better than Cam was and Anton Harrison’s doing just fine for a year 2. OT’s actually not one of our biggest concerns. We’re far more vulnerable on the IOL

people would consider WR a more premium position… I think that’s true UP UNTIL you’re talking about a Jeanty who is head and shoulders the best RB of the last few classes

 

Yeah fair and you’re not gonna take an IOL that high I guess

 

Walker Little isn't any good and Jeanty top 5 would be INSANE for us. Travis Hunter and Mason Graham are the only two I feel good about taking top five rn

 

Top 5 is a bit much but it’s not ALWAYS an awful decision and there’s not always a Jeanty

elite talent will always go early, it’s about being willing to take the risk that you’re right. The bigger issue is teams being in really bad shape when they do so and not being able to take advantage, like the Giants with Saquon. I think we have a better case for “the right coach can turn this around without a whole-ass rebuild” than they did.

 

But an elite RB actually can carry a struggling passing offense and that’s the level of talent we’re talking about here imo. Chargers were ASS before LT. Even if Jeanty is half what LT was that’s a lot more juice than adding a CB imo. Not to say I wouldn’t love Travis Hunter I definitely would. But I think a RB like this moves the needle in a way that’s irrelevant to all other RB discourse. I don’t blink one fuckin eyeball taking Fred T at 9.

 

The league is not what it was when LT joined lol

 

If the Jaguars draft a running back in the top five...

 

Put it like this, SOMEONE is taking Ashton Jeanty in the top 8 MINIMUM. Whoever does will be criticized. If he’s awesome as shit it’ll be looked at like another AP / LT and no one will care a team spent a high pick.

 

I’m just feeling like fuck conventional logic, we put a superbowl winning coach with a QB who beat Alabama for a title as a freshman and we still fuckin fucked that up. Who cares just go get players that are obviously sick, the “right rebuild” has gotta come from coaching at some point

Travis Hunter also counts as “obviously sick” haha

 

It's time for a philosophical change in pro football. Someone has to get away from the spread concepts and get back in the I-Formation. That is how you get teams out of the two high looks and all of the Cover 3 stuff that most of the league runs.

I don't devalue the running back as much as many, but it's still not a premium position. In a deep RB class, I think it's safer to wait.

An elite prospect at a premium positions like WR, CB, or OT is just more valuable for a franchise that is likely going to hit the reset button.

 

Who was the last top 5 or even like, top 10 running back that put up numbers and it correlated to team success? Zeke?

they had Smith Frederick and Martin on the OL

 

Bring back the fullback please I beg

 

Jags should have hired Harbuagh

 

Saquon Barkley this year but that’s kind of a cheap example lol

 

Sorry I meant drafted that high and immediately made a difference

 

I feel like modern adaptations of Cover 3 that are press-bail technique, and use match coverage to compensate for weaknesses up the seam, are more resistant to things you’d usually call out of the I form to thwart cover 3 (including play action concepts that target the deep post / TE seam fades, etc) and that’s why you’re not seeing as much of it. Seattle’s LOB defense being so dominant 10 years ago really changed the league and now a lot of teams do that shit (to varying degrees of success) because you really can come out in a Cover 3 shell more than half the time and make it behave more like Cover 1 in certain situations. It’s also easy to disguise blitzes and other coverages because you set an expectation for the offense to think the safety will stay in the box, so when he drops back it can mind fuck the QB and his protection.

 

some of our teams play a FB consistently thanks!

 

Is what the dolphins do actually considered football

 

Do we feel like next year’s QB class is definitely better than this one?

I guess it depends on who declares, but this Ward/Dart/Shedeur/Milroe group (+Ewers, maybe Nussmeier and Klubnik, etc) feels a lot deeper than next year’s group that maybe has Arch and Nico as better prospects at the top but looks like it’s going to be the first one that’s negatively impacted experience-wise from the COVID years guys taking all the starts over the past few years

 

I have never been more certain of something

2026 should have Arch Manning, LaNorris Sellers, Cade Klubnik, and Nico Iamaleava

 

It's time for me to extensively watch defensive tackles, linebackers, and safeties

 

im currently not confident in Arch going pro next year and not confident in Klubnik staying in school, but I guess we’ll see how declarations play out

Sellers is cool though, SC is fun in general right now