Star Wars Universe (Rebels, Clone Wars, Comics, Books, Video Games) • Page 247

iirc, Simon Kinberg is one of the creators, co-writers, and EPs of Rebels, so that might have something to do with it

 

He also basically managed the X-Men universe and look how that turned out.

 

Rian Johnson's supposed trilogy is never happening isn't it

 

Oh no shot lol

 

the only one he wrote that i've seen is The Last Stand, and judging by that one alone, i'm not optimistic (i know his others are trash from what everyone else says, with his EP track record for the franchise a mixed bag).

 

It was never happening after the incels cried after TLJ came out and we got the abomination of TROS to shit on the entire movie and the whole saga.

 

on paper the trilogy isn't dead (KK has said he's just been super busy with Knives Out and Poker Face but still wants to do it), but unofficially i just don't see it happening unless some miracle occurs

 

I apologize that this is completely unrelated to Star Wars, but I think studios are just using this week as a dumping ground to disappoint us even more with their dumb ass choices for writers.

 

TLJ is in my top 3 SW movies but I hope RJ doesn't come back. Just let him be creative AF with his own stuff. He's been my favorite filmmaker ever since Brick. Star Wars doesn't deserve him.

 

still need to get around to Brick. have only heard great things.

 

Kinberg fucked up doing Dark Phoenix, TWICE!

 

Notice anything?

 

a day before my birthday, hell yeah

 

They’re doing stories again.

 

I didn’t get why that got shit on so much. I liked it personally.

 

same!

 

literally just closed out of the article before seeing this, lol

 

What I gathered from the article is that they’re too afraid to expand the universe on the big screen, only the Disney+ side is able to expand the lore.

 

i'd say it's less about medium and more about specific time periods. aside from The Acolyte, everything post-TROS has primarily worked to fill in preexisting gaps in the timeline or supplement more beloved projects (i.e. Andor supplementing Rogue One). the same can be said for some already-announced films that would function the same way (Mando, Filoni's other film, Rogue Squadron, Lando).

the hesitancy seems to concern what comes before and what comes after existing canon, which would probably make more sense to depict on the big screen than TV. the question is how specifically you walk the line between making something different from what's come before (because a lot of people are tired of treading familiar thematic and narrative ground from the existing Skywalker timeline), but not different enough to alienate casual viewers (as evidenced by the mixed reception to everything beyond the core 6 films and what happens between them).

i think the anti-Kathleen Kennedy crowd is annoying (there's a reason she's had success outside of SW), but if the goal is to move on from existing time periods and storylines, i question whether the extent of creative control she and Filoni have would be sufficient enough to provide audiences with compelling, well-executed stories that don't tread familiar ground. giving another seasoned, highly-praised storyteller (maybe Favreau?) a seat at the big table/more creative oversight might break the cycle of projects being delayed/cancelled or released to mixed reception. the projects that have been announced all sound compelling, but i think the way those two solely attempt to manage the timeline (i.e. overseeing/editing scripts, insisting on certain narrative beats) might be holding it back.

 

I think the problem and good thing about Star Wars was the family story. Good as in it felt coherent and the audience were able to follow the skywalkers (Anakin, Luke, Leia, etc). Ever since the original trilogy the family was what the story was crafted around and it made for a good, epic, but personal space opera.

The bad part is that story is over (technically it was over after episode 3) and Disney has been desperate to crawl back to it and failed. A lot of the nostalgia for Star Wars is with the skywalkers. Will Star Wars ever be able to go back to being as cultural important as it was? Who knows, but not with the way Disney/Lucasfilm currently want to run it.

I think marvel is in the same boat. The audience grew with Iron Man and Captain America. Once you strip characters away that the audience was fond of and grew with then it’s hard to recapture the same magic ever again.

 

that's a good point. it's obviously possible to tell effective stories that don't involve the Skywalker family/have less-direct connections to the core films (obviously see Andor - it's no surprise that Filoni isn't involved with that project and it's been an overwhelming success). they're just afraid to. maybe future projects shouldn't look like Star Wars at all? something without the nostalgia - or an overreliance on what i like to call "the little guy problem" (i.e. Grogu, BB-8, any small non-human creature or character that exists to sell toys) - might be able to succeed if it doesn't have the weight of everything else on its shoulders.

 

Even looking back at previous attempts to expand the narrative to other parts of the galaxy, I can’t recall a time when the Skywalker family wasn’t connected to the overall storyline. Were any of the popular EU books of the 90s not connected to the Skywalker family in some way? I can’t think of any.