Touché Amoré - Spiral in a Straight Line (October 11th 2024) Album • Page 10

idk what everyone has against the singles lol I think they're great

 

Digging into this now. And yall are wild, the singles are good.

 

I love the singles, theyre just not my favorite on the album haha

 

Never said I didn’t like either of the singles lol

But I like this and I’m looking forward to spending more time with this. Inclined to agree that the singles are the weakest songs on here.

Report me if you have a problem with that

 

I'm halfway through and my one complaint is the same as I've had on Lament - I want some of the harder moments to go harder.

 

And for whatever reason, same thing as Lament - the mastering on streaming is weird.

 

I’m a big fan of the sonic direction they’ve taken since Is Survived By in terms of both the overall mix and the guitar/bass/drum tones they’ve gotten

 

I'm enjoying on my first listen, but I agree with you on this.

 

I need to dig into this with lyrics, that's for sure.

 

really enjoying my first listen

 

Stage Four is still my favorite so far, but immediately like this more than Lament

 

I just listened to the closer 4 times in a row haha

 

I didn’t listen to nobody’s, but I like it, but I do think it ends really weird. A couple of songs on here feel like they just stop pretty abruptly

 

Man Finalist and the closer are so fucking good

 

The grass is always greener when you’re sitting on the fffeeeeennnnnnccccccce

 

well disasters is a ripper.

 

Yeah this is great, which is what I expected. Was very lukewarm on the singles but figured it would work in context, similar to how I felt on Lament. Band doesn't miss!

 

Damn, fantastic album. Altitude made me say, "wow". I love the production too.

Jeremy, if you're reading this, well done to all of you.

 

Enjoying this record (Finalist, Mezzanine, Altitude, and This Routine are my top favorites) but not as much as the previous two that came before it.

Hopefully, this grows on me with repeat listens.

 

It’s growing on me. Not sure if it’s my EQ settings in Spotify or what but it sounds better streamed there.

 

I listened on Apple Music last night and it was fine, but I do remember when Nobody’s dropped that I listened back and forth between Spotify, Apple Music, and Bandcamp and Bandcamp sounded significantly better than the other two to me. it’s pretty common that masters are messed with, most often turned down, in the process of uploading to streaming services as each streaming service has specific loudness requirements they want to be met.

 

That is the point of mastering, though. You master for each format it'll be played back in - that means mastering for Apple Music, iTunes, Spotify, vinyl, and so forth so there shouldn't be such vast differences

My understanding is the loudness before any volume limiting is consistent and it's the volume limiting/balancing across tracks where the difference in loudness normalization comes into play (where Apple is using -16 LUFs and Spotify is using -14 LUFs for the most part). And, as I dig into this, it seems Apple two years ago only applied the updated normalization to Lossless tracks and I'm not even sure that applies to Lossless playback over Bluetooth. What a mess.

I'm also probably talking out of my ass and would love to be enlightened if I am.

 

This album rips. Wasn’t a huge fan of Nobody’s and am fired up for how the rest of the album sounds. TA’s discography is quite quite awesome.

 

hard to say for this specific record, but from what I understand it’s kind of a case-by-case basis thing whether or not artists/labels/those who call the shots will specifically adjust their masters for each streaming service. I suspect many artists just produce one master for everything and allow each service to apply its own normalization to it, especially if they’re smaller artists trying to save money. I’d imagine it’s a similar case as with vinyl, it is preferable to produce a master specifically done for the format but plenty of records are pressed without putting any care into that and they suffer for it. but I can’t say I am really the most knowledgeable about mastering, myself, I have more experience with the recording and mixing side of things and even then I am still learning and there is a lot of technical stuff that kinda eludes me. I just know there are times I have found things sounding worse to me on the major streaming platforms, particularly with spotify in my experience, than say on bandcamp or physical formats. often stuff sounds more compressed and murky to me on Spotify than even Apple Music, even when set to stream at the highest quality.

 

That all makes sense. Mastering has always been the thing that’s eluded me as its technical on an entirely different level. I wouldn’t be surprised if there are plug-ins available that do an automatic mastering based on desired output.