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General Politics Discussion (XI) [ARCHIVED] World • Page 1355

Discussion in 'Politics Forum' started by Melody Bot, Nov 10, 2023.

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  1. David87

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  2. sophos34

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    This should be pinned to the top of every page of this website
     
  3. David87

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    Lower the rate, Powell.
     
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  4. dylan

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    This is so naive lol. There is, to date, 0 proof that Harris will be better. This is like saying Biden and Trump are different, when the only thing is Biden says he supports a ceasefire but actually doesn’t in his actions and the US still funds a Genocide whereas Trump doesn’t support a ceasefire and will still fund a Genocide. The end result is the same and as of now, Harris and her team have indicated 0 material difference between herself and Biden or Trump.
     
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  5. David87

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    I disagree with your conclusions.
     
  6. dylan

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    Then you have the political instincts of a child
     
  7. St. Nate

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    once again, the proof is just that the educated presumption that trump will be worse because he is a worse person and in a worse party.
     
  8. Importer/Exporter

    he’ll live forever in the sound of broken glass Supporter

    Take heart, Palestinians: Kamala is on her way! (good or bad TBD, please ignore her and her party’s history on this matter)
     
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  9. Brother Beck

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    jokes about Ukraine right now are equally as tasteful as jokes about Gaza
     
  10. David87

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    I disagree with your interpretation of that as well!
     
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  11. St. Nate

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    no, mongrel.
     
  12. Importer/Exporter Aug 21, 2024
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    Importer/Exporter

    he’ll live forever in the sound of broken glass Supporter

    Our tax dollars go to Ukraine. Gaza gets nothing from us (aside from what we might give individually). I’m begging you to stop treating the two as if there’s anything “equal” about the situations.
     
  13. Importer/Exporter

    he’ll live forever in the sound of broken glass Supporter

    The more I think about it, the more I actually think “you don’t talk about this entirely dissimilar scenario as much as this other one, so really you’re just a hypocrite” might not be an argument made in good faith. Again, I can’t imagine people are that dumb so I could be wrong but it feels like it is intentionally obtuse.
     
  14. The difference in the stances was that you are pretending the Democrats will end the genocide - a lie. You are lying about genocide for your own gain because Kamala will be better for you.
     
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  15. St. Nate

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    I feel like getting back into fantasy football. we should do political thread league.
     
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  16. sophos34

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    I mean I’m of the belief things could hypothetically get much worse for Palestine under trump, sure, but things are already so bad that the point doesn’t really land
     
  17. iCarly Rae Jepsen

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  18. mintplusplus

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    What are some accounts by Palestinians or non-white Americans where people can get some truth and commentary on Gaza?
     
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  19. David87

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    No I think she’ll be way better for tons of other people, and possibly she’ll be better for the Palestinians—I will take a possibility over no possibility.

    I don’t know that I’ll gain much if at all from Harris personally. Child tax credit being back to 2021 levels I guess. But I won’t be helped my the first year part of it nor her housing plan as I already own my home. If anything her housing plan will “hurt” my “net worth” because theoretically it should bring housing values down lol
     
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  20. dylan

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    just to make sure we're all on the same page:
    • Biden's biggest criticism from likely voters pre-drop out was his stance on funding a Genocide in Palestine
    • A movement formed to vote "uncommitted" during democratic primary elections in several states to force the issue and hopefully result in a change in policy
    • Biden's stance did not change and polling showed a lack of enthusiasm for Biden and a likely Trump win in November
    • Biden drops out and Harris is the nominee
    • When faced with protests at an event over the Genocide in Palestine, Harris issues a statement condemning the protestors and voicing support for Israel while using the same empty "ceasefire" language that Biden has been using while still supplying weapons to Israel
    • Harris's national security advisor states she does not support an arms embargo
    • The DNC adopts their 2024 platform that has no mention of an arms embargo

    And yet, we're supposed to believe that this is a secret strategy by Harris to...be better on Palestine? That having "smoke" around her stance on the issue, the biggest issue facing the democrats from their own likely voters, is the case here?
     
  21. St. Nate

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    electronic intifada
    the cradle
    mondoweiss
    palestinian youth movement
     
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  22. here's one

     
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  23. David87

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