Killers of the Flower Moon (Martin Scorsese, October 6, 2023) Movie • Page 41

I literally do not read books or play video games so I have no clue how to answer this question.

 

Some of y'all don't have kids and it shows.

Setting aside 3 1/2 hours with multiple kids is an enormous task, haha.

Prior to having kids, all I ever did was watch films and as originally stated, the length of a film never once bothered me.

 

Return the kids

 

I’d love to

 

All sympathy to the parents out there in any hobby.

I don't have kids but work 50-60 hours a week so it's tough to fit in movies like I used to, still have infinity more free time than dealing with kids tho

 

I have no kids, but do have a social life. But obviously, I’m free to watch whatever I want almost whenever.

 

i saw the movie twice in theaters and have a kid, we called a babysitter, so crazy

 

Comparing binging TV to watching Killers of the Flower Moon ingores how different the experience is and the mind set you need to be in to enjoy each.

Why did you go for a walk when you could of done an hour of boxing? I didnt feel like getting punched today.

 

it's also just a boring conversation at this point. like the movie is incredibly profound with so much to praise but all anyone wants to talk about is the length. same thing happened with Irishman

 

What confuses me is that length should be good if it is a pleasant experience. When I think of something being too long I think of waiting in line at an office or an uncomfortable plane ride. If something is good, and it has been a very widely praised film, then why do I want it to end?

It's understandable to put something off for an appropriate amount of time. It's respectful of the art; you don't want to watch this out of the side of your eye while you're folding laundry. However, it is something everyone can see and appreciate and we will probably be talking about it for a long time.

 

I talk a lot about falling asleep in theaters, but I went to see this after an entire school day and open house night and I didn't feel the length at all. It is almost like a pilgrimage at this point; this is a major statement from one of the greatest directors to ever live and realistically we are getting close to the end of his career. When Jean-Luc Godard died I was devastated because I knew I would never experience anything from him again. Getting to see a master at the top of the art form is an honor, not a burden.

 

The thing too is, if we're talking about this for a fucking Scorsese movie what hope do future artists who don't have the same clout or bankable history have for making a film remotely in this scope without being dismissed out of hand either by audiences or the studios financing this things?

It feels really grim!

 

The list of directors who could get money for a sprawling period piece like this is really small. Scorsese, Tarantino, Nolan, Cameron, and that is about it. Maybe Ridley Scott or Steven Spielberg, but their recent financial failures are remembered more than decades of success.

 

It is not something everyone can enjoy. There is a significant portion of people who do not have the capacity to appreciate a work like this.

You can't set a difficulty level that challenges everyone, if everyone passes a challenge it disqualifies itself as such.

 

More than maybe any other director, Scorsese is able to make films that your uncle who only watches five movies a year can enjoy and also the most serious cinephile around can analyze and appreciate.

 

I don't know how true that is post Wolf of Wall Street tbh.

I haven't seen Silence yet but I know a lot of folks bounced off The Irishman (unfortunate since it's in my top 3)

 

What part of KotFM will my uncle enjoy? Theres no fun bits of bad behaviour being glorified, he's not going to appreciate reconciling with the somber past of colonialism for 3 hours. This movie doesnt let you hook and just have fun, it demands you feel it.

 

I wouldn’t say that. It’s a heavy movie but Scorcese manages to keep the momentum high, which makes it feel lighter. Also, it’s just a joy to experience. It looks great visually, the score is great, career-high performances, even some funny moments… every scene is richly painted with extraordinary detail and care.

it’s very cinematic. I don’t see why someone who simply enjoys movies wouldn’t enjoy seeing this- it doesn’t take a scholar to get something out of it.

(I also went with my friend who I honestly will be the first to admit is not a well-read or very deep person, and he enjoyed it very much)

 

Why do you think it hasnt received greater success with general audiences?

When I talk about capacity to enjoy Im including circumstances and condistioning. If you have kids or work long hours, stress etc it becomes much harder to want to put in the additional emotional energy a long heavy film demands as opposed to watching TV.

 

I don’t quite understand where the conversation is going now. If all art were short, easily digestible, and make you feel good about yourself, then a massive number of classic films would’ve never existed. Also, there are plenty of “successful” movies that point the finger at the viewer and say “you’re part of this too.” Hell, anything that has any social commentary does it. I also don’t think I can answer your question about “success,” because I’m not sure I view success as solely being related to ticket sales.

This is an amazing movie that I truly believe anyone can enjoy. Yes, it’s heavy, but it’s also not inaccessible.

 

I think modern audiences have been conditioned further in that direction and that is why this film wasnt as popular as past classics that it matches in quality.

 

Idk I think it did pretty well in theaters considering the length and subject matter. (Not taking the budget into consideration here)

 

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