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2023-2024 NFL Season Thread • Page 2332

Discussion in 'Sports Forum' started by Max_123, May 7, 2023.

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  1. whitenblue88

    The rivalry is back on

    yeah, Fields is probably still one of the 32 best QBs in the league, but it’s also not a very encouraging or exciting move to go out and solve the QB position by giving up draft capital to land the 26th best QB
     
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  2. phaynes12

    https://expertfrowner.bandcamp.com/ Prestigious

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  3. phaynes12

    https://expertfrowner.bandcamp.com/ Prestigious

    except in basketball, i've been beating his ass since i was 15
     
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  4. Randall Mentzos

    When you hit a mothafucka, you hit that mothafucka Prestigious

    That said, if you have elite man to man corners, calling a bunch of press-man is worth the risk because it takes away the OC and QBs ability to predictively call plays that beat the zone playcall they expect the opponent to come out in. It puts all the emphasis on execution cause there’s not a whole lot of plays that automatically beat good man coverage, and that puts a lot of pressure on the QB to make elite throws instead of making it easier on himself with reads
     
  5. CarpetElf

    benjamin please Prestigious

    If I'm Pittsburgh or Atlanta or New York I'm easily throwing my 2nd at Chicago for Fields. Seems like a real easy move
     
  6. CarpetElf

    benjamin please Prestigious

    Sometimes it's okay not to argue with every single stat ever.
     
  7. Randall Mentzos Nov 29, 2023
    (Last edited: Nov 29, 2023)
    Randall Mentzos

    When you hit a mothafucka, you hit that mothafucka Prestigious

    Against the best of the best QBs it’s really a pick your poison thing. Mahomes almost never makes dumb decisions under pressure, if anything he’s BETTER when forced to improvise. So you can’t trust zone. But he also has the most elite accuracy in the NFL so you can’t stop him from making downfield completions vs man even if you are doing a good job limiting separation

    This year man to man makes more sense against them cause their receivers are horrid. But if he ends up acquiring another good wideout this off-season, then opponents are gonna be back to man coverage being even worse.

    With zone, it’s more of a chess match - it becomes more about if you can outsmart Andy Reid and call plays he isn’t expecting. Yeah you’ll get criticized on Twitter for “leaving Kelce wide open” when Reid correctly predicted your call, but you might call right plays at the right time often enough, stop enough of those crucial third downs, to win 31-28… as opposed to, no man coverage is stopping Mahomes from throwing a BOMB to a good ass receiver cause his ball placement is that good
     
  8. Giving up a second for fields get out of here
     
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  9. MidDave

    I'm Sleepy Supporter

    No chance am I giving up a 2nd for Fields. A 4th? Fine lol
     
  10. phaynes12

    https://expertfrowner.bandcamp.com/ Prestigious

    im sure the panthers would give up a first
     
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  11. Randall Mentzos

    When you hit a mothafucka, you hit that mothafucka Prestigious

    I think people should stop peddling “advanced statistics” if they don’t know how to be critical of their obvious limitations and flaws. Way too many #analysts (lol) just treat them like they say a more all-encompassing, objective thing than they actually say

    if someone wanted to measure CB talent in good faith, they would’ve limited this to man coverage snaps, and then used a different metric than “separation” to examine zone coverage snaps. Every team calls both, but the ratio varies wildly, and separation is built into zone coverage calls
     
  12. CarpetElf

    benjamin please Prestigious

    That's too much!? A late 2nd!? Come on
     
  13. CarpetElf

    benjamin please Prestigious

    out of your damn mind
     
  14. imthegrimace

    the poster formally known as thesheriff Supporter

    which new york
     
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  15. CarpetElf

    benjamin please Prestigious

    Or maybe you're projecting and not just looking at what is being said. Nothing explains 100% of everything every time and holding anything to that standard is absurd
     
  16. CarpetElf

    benjamin please Prestigious

  17. CarpetElf

    benjamin please Prestigious

    GOTTEM
     
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  18. whitenblue88

    The rivalry is back on

    Idk, I want to be the team signing Fields for 2/$25M in two years, not the team giving up a second to then have to pay $100M to keep Fields if he does anything close to good after acquiring him

    drafting a Daniels/Nix/McCarthy, trading for Kyler if you’re gonna give up that early pick for a QB, or using a Baker Mayfield as a bridge QB all seem like more appealing options than a Fields move this offseason
     
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  19. imthegrimace

    the poster formally known as thesheriff Supporter

    what about the gabagol goober or whatever Murph calls him?
     
  20. CarpetElf

    benjamin please Prestigious

    Is he not playing for two years in this scenario?
     
  21. CarpetElf

    benjamin please Prestigious

    You're right the Giants are much too racist. Good call
     
  22. Randall Mentzos

    When you hit a mothafucka, you hit that mothafucka Prestigious

    It’s misleading. It leads people to think it’s more objective than it is and people do form conclusions from these graphs as if they do explain 100% of everything. Yourself included. I think we should keep faux-analytics out of football because they don’t actually say any more than you can surmise just from examining all the regular numbers
     
  23. whitenblue88

    The rivalry is back on

    Last year of rookie contract + 5th year option, get run out of the new town and be a FA
     
  24. imthegrimace

    the poster formally known as thesheriff Supporter

  25. Sean Murphy

    i'll never delete a post Supporter

    The Sfogliatelle Sheriff? love him.
     
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