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The Amazing Spider-Schnau 2 Official Concept Trailer

 

Psa I’m high too lmao

 

This forum is like a giant commercial for not doing drugs.

 

It might just be me, but maybe just maybe making 2/3 of your leads in a $250,000,000 major studio movie virtual unknowns who were introduced in kind of mid-tier streaming shows you assumed everyone buying a ticket watched, is not a sound strategy.

 

You're not wrong, but I also don't like the message this sends that studios should only cast actors with high draws to star in their big budget tentpoles, especially since Iman Vellani is so great as Ms. Marvel (in the show, I still haven't seen the film).

 

It was probably said in the thread for The Marvels but the necessity of seeing those Disney+ shows was very overblown IMO, unless you’re a little dumb baby

but the perception that you need to see the shows to see the movies isn’t great

 

Yeah, I said something somewhere about that.

The individual films I think have done a great job so far of including all the relevant information you need to enjoy the film you're watching, and having watched the previous material will only serve to heighten the experience.

But the more people perpetuate this assumption that you need to watch all this stuff to understand what's going on, the more people believe that, and the cycle continues, creating this perception that the MCU is an impenetrable fog.

Break the cycle.

Go see movies.

 

Based on box office, people saw the first Avengers and also Infinity War/Endgame without having seen everything that led into them. (I’m sure some people caught some projects later, but still.)

Marketing certainly seemed to emphasize connectivity this time in a way that may have amplified things. But, I think the bigger impact Disney+ has had is over saturating and diluting the “product,” so that these aren’t events anymore. Factor in the duds both inside and outside this franchise for the genre, plus the strike, and it’s unsurprising people don’t give a shit. (Which, I dug The Marvels, but that cape movie juggernaut faltering doesn’t upset me too much, lol.)

Definitely think the “unknowns” talking point is bullshit. Hasn’t stop other things from popping off. In a better managed franchise with better work on average, a movie centered on Iman Vellani’s Ms Marvel would 100% be a hit.

 

i agree to an extent but the amount of homework is only increasing, to the point where they’re making a banner of shows to advertise which ones you don’t need backstory for lmao

 

On the other hand I feel like that’s part of the reason the shows are flopping too. It’s like why spend weeks with this show that ultimately doesn’t matter? Now some of the shows are good and worth watching but I feel like the larger audience doesn’t want to waste their time. And then maybe the writers could write better shows if they were allowed bigger stakes? Idk

 

Love a good comics “jumping on point,” lol.

 

This has pretty much always been true throughout the MCU, yet people still buy it.

 

So you want the MCU to be impenetrable?

I don't think not having the shows be necessary to understand the films means they don't matter.

Certainly they inform backstory and color in the details on events, and tell their own stories in the meantime.

And I disagree that the shows need bigger stakes. The shows should gravitate toward smaller and more personal stakes, and leave the big stakes for the films, where it can be an event.

 

Tim's peanut butter is about to get in my jelly and I'm not enthused about this.

 

I agree with what you’re saying. I think the problem is that they kinda try to sell it as “this is necessary” and then people get let down because turns out it wasn’t. Doesn’t make it inherently bad. They just need to let these things exist

 

As the world’s foremost stan of non-Marvel Studios Sony Marvel movies (sans Morbius), I don’t want this, either.

 

I’m multiversed out.

would love a soft reboot following the next big incursion. Let’s focus on one universe, that should be big enough without having 30 versions of the same character.

 

@headsfalloff on Twitter has it right. That's all we fucking need. Street level crime fighting, issues with money, family and relationships. This isn't hard, people. That's Spider-Man.

 

I would love a movie where there isn't just the big bad, and throughout a lot of the movie, Peter is just taking out street level villains we all know, with a bigger one at the very end that was slowly built up during the movie in between all that.

It would really make a nice comic book vibe.

 

Maybe throughout the movie spiderman is visiting King Pin in his tower and scolding him for what he does swearing that he will make the world see what Kingpin truly is while he rubs shoulders with the rich elite, and it builds up to him being the big bad of the full film. Maybe Matt Murdock joins in. Who knows.

 

I'LL CHASE YOU TO THE ENDS OF THE EARTH, KINGPIN

 

I just want something like the intro of homecoming but instead of common criminals, just show him casually taking out dudes like shocker, electro, scorpion, the spot, etc. on his daily errands. Shows how much he's grown as an experienced superhero without wasting a ton of screen time on fan favorite villains.

Spiderman 3 had a problem with focus and characterization, it wasn't a problem with the number of villains

 

I can see a subsection of people though being like "Spot's my favorite character and they wasted him!"

Personally, I think a great duo for something like this would be the Walrus and the White Rabbit.

 

I don’t want another multiverse spiderman film but, I bet a movie to merge the MCU with the the Sony films was the only way Marvel studios could make a deal with them. It’s unfortunate but not shocking.