Green Day - Saviors (January 19th, 2024) • Page 11

Your posts always sound like you're making the "Problem Internet" face.

 

I don't know that face

 

Is it this one

 

Recently tried Tre again and enjoyed Dirty Rotten Bastards quite a bit. Loved the different parts that make up that song…and a sweet bass solo, too.

 

That's the problem internet one?



This one is good too

 

If you count the trilogy as one project, it makes it a little more digestible as far as how many clunkers are in their discography.

Really makes Trilogy and Foam their only offensive missteps

 

Look Ma is awesome. A whole album of songs like that will do just fine. Back to basics, pure uncut Green Day

 

My defense of the trilogy has been long chronicled on this site so now I'll pivot to defending 21CBD

I rank it above Dookie personally but that's probably because I saw them on that tour when I was a teenager and the experience basically got me into music as a whole. I LOVE that album

American Idiot was the first album that I ever bought with my own money when it came out when I was 8 and it changed my life, and then five years later 21st Century (and the general era of the band) got me into live music and just being an obsessive fan of artists

 

Ranking 21CB above Dookie is absolute insanity.

 

21CB is over an hour and forty minutes if you count all the B sides attached with it. The album in general is long but holy hell who could possibly sit and listen to all of that in full?

 

Just think that somebody has probably listened to the trilogy front to back in one sitting

 

Many times, actually!

 

where are you getting an hour forty? Are you counting the cover songs?

 

same here!

 

I truly don’t want to meet that kind of psychic person.

Oh hey Clockwise.

 

Yeah on my iPhone my 21CB is the album plus Lights Out, A Quick One, Another State Of Mind, That’s All Right, Like A Rolling Stone, Know Your Enemy (live), and Static Age (live).

That’s not counting Burnout (live) and Hearts Collide which are b sides too but I didn’t include them because I have those tracks on other albums.

 

yeah i guess the album does get longer if you add an eight-minute cover of a who song onto it

 

Haha

 

I mean, they said it's a formative album for them, not really insane at all given that context.

Dookie was one of the first albums I ever heard all the way through, and one of the first I ever loved. But Idiot came along at a more formative time in my life when I was really defining my music taste. Given the choice between those two, I'd rank Idiot above Dookie ever single time. If I were a few years younger, 21st Century Breakdown easily could have played that same role.

 

As much as I do think the trilogy is quality, I know my love for it is totally informed by the fact that it came out right after I graduated high school and was kind of the big soundtrack for many major life developments.

Anyways, we talked about Look Ma, No Brains! and the upcoming tour on the Green Dudes podcast today if anyone's interested.

Look Ma, No Brains! + the Saviours Tour

 

I get your logic, but AI is actually a fantastic album made up of undeniably good songs at it's core. I really don't think 21CB does that.

That being said, of course someone can have their own personal attachment, I just don't think you or I would have the same connection with 21CB vs AI if we were younger

 

I don't know if anything in music is "undeniably good" or "undeniably bad," honestly. I've seen so, so many people shit on American Idiot. Some in this thread!

I totally think 21CB could have been one of those albums for me if the release order were switched. Fall 2004 is pretty much an "anything I was listening to then gets elevated to favorite status" time of my life, so it's hard for me to be objective about American Idiot, or Futures, or even, like, How to Dismantle and Atomic Bomb.