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The Creator (Gareth Edwards; September 29, 2023) Movie • Page 5

Discussion in 'Entertainment Forum' started by Joe, Apr 26, 2023.

  1. tomdelonge

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    Society is healing
     
  2. PepsiOne

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    Normalize confrontation
     
  3. Ferrari333SP

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    I didn’t buy how this played out, at all. I must have missed something; we were supposed to root for Joshua’s character why? Humans and AI have been at war for years, and then Joshua takes the side of Alfie, with the goal of taking out the machine that has been helping humans in their battle against AI? I kept rooting for his plan to fail, and was disappointed it didn’t. Visually stunning film, but the 2nd half script completely lost me
     
  4. devenstonow

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    AI isn't really the villain, it was a human coding error that caused the nuke and the US is the one who is on the offensive. I think its implied this is out in the open politically - if the US stopped the war, Asia/AI wouldn't fight back. He also doesn't know that that's her purpose at first, his goal is to find Nirmhata and it's Allison Janey who assumes she's Nirmhata, while he knows she's the key to finding Nirnhata. Also imagine at first he protects her because "holy shit I can't take a kid that looks like what my dead child might have looked like" and that there's never been a child simulant
     
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  5. devenstonow

    Noobie

    I like how all the TVs and screens were the same wide aspect ratio the movie is in
     
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  6. Ferrari333SP

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    Did AI launch the nuke or did it come from humans? If AI, did the robots, in the period before the LA nuke, design/create/build themselves, or did humans have dominion over all AI systems, and therefore could have created that coding error, which led to the nuke? I was under the impression that AI was already on its own at that point.
    I would have wanted to destroy the AI race anyways, to prevent any chance at them going rogue in the future
     
  7. This was visually interesting to say the least but I was fatigued by the dark and muted color palette.

    Story-wise I felt JDW was the only one breathing some life into this.
     
  8. Helloelloallo

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    I really enjoyed this a lot and thought the story was fine - there's a lot to unpack as far as symbolism and metaphors and historical / parallel references go. The dialogue was clunky at times (especially when they scanned the child and overly explained things), but it wasn't a movie breaker. I'd rate it an 8.5 easily and my wife was in awe and chatty after trying to dig deeper into it.

    Definitely up there with my greats as far as 'big' movies to see in the theater. Great experience and glad I witnessed it first in a theater.
     
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  9. Ferrari333SP

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    Crazy that if you tripled the budget for this, it still wouldn't be more than the latest Indiana Jones, yet the CGI in The Creator is leagues above what's in the Indy film. Don't think a bigger budget would have changed this film in any meaningful way anyways.
     
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  10. Helloelloallo

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    I said that as soon as I walked out... It's amazing how visually impressive this was for a smaller film and it makes me wonder what drives the cost and mediocrity of the block busters lately. Massive teams forced to crunch? Too much corporate micro managing? Costs of big name actors? It seems every few years there's a movie that comes in under the radar, and just looks so much better than what the big studios are putting out.
     
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  11. xapplexpiex

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    The thread lowered my expectations, but I ended up loving this.
     
  12. Just got home from seeing this. Maybe not as great as I hoped it could be, but I still really enjoyed it. It's so nice to see a movie on the big screen with great VFX. Loved the designs of everything and the overall aesthetic.
     
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  13. Garrett

    i tore a hole in the fabric of time Moderator

    I really liked this. Love seeing Gareth have fun with VFX.
     
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  14. aoftbsten

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    This fell pretty flat for me, unfortunately. Most of the characters felt very one-dimensional and their motivations felt kind of lazy or non-existent. Human or otherwise. I feel like there was a distinction made between the police AI and the freedom-fighting AI, but it was never made all that clear why. There was a simple way to do this story but it seemed to go out of its way to make things convoluted.

    Still, it wasn't completely without merit. The US being at war and oppressing a problem of our own creation could be just about any modern conflict America has been involved with. That theme was overall well done. The bridge sequence was a highlight. Those suicide runner robots were a nice dig at blind patriotism. Madeleine Yuna Voyles was probably the best part of this along with Ken Watanabe.
    And obviously, the VFX were spectacular. I honestly can't believe this was made for only $80 million.

    Overall, I didn't hate it, but it's not something I see myself thinking about outside of the visuals. I want to see Edwards return to something smaller in scale like Monsters in the future, which I still love and consider his best movie.
     
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  15. aoftbsten

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    Actually, I will say two more good things about this. I did really love that the AI weren't these unstoppable robots. They were actually very easily beaten. Basically as competent as any of the human characters.

    Also, the dog grenade gag was fantastic.
     
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  16. flask

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    Most interesting part of the movie was when they transfer the dead guys consciousness to a robot for 30 seconds and he’s freaking out calling for his wife. Otherwise rest of the movie was kind of a snooze. Looked fantastic tho.
     
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  17. aoftbsten

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    That scene was great. This movie had a lot of interesting ideas, it just didn’t have the story to tie them all together.
     
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  18. cshadows2887

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    I thought this was fantastic and deeply moving and will harangue every single hater into submission
     
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  19. Night Channels

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    It was fine. I wasn’t moved by it at all. It just felt unearned.
     
  20. digitalsea

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    Digital release must be tomorrow because this is already out there
     
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  21. imthegrimace

    the poster formally known as thesheriff Supporter

    I’d like to rewatch it now knowing the story sucks and just vibe out on the visuals.
     
  22. Serh

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    hulu 12/20
     
  23. Cameron

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    Yeah was pretty disappointed in this. Definitely some great visuals and cool concepts.

    My biggest complaints being the dialogue and story beats being laughably cliche. In front of his pro AI wife: “I’m undercover why would you call me police man!?”

    Wife is about to get blasted “noooooo” cut to black. 5 years later….. it’s just very cookie cutter for Gareth. I did like how the wife was actually dead. Cuz that was about to be another eye roll for me if she was in fact still alive after presumed dead.
     
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  24. Cameron

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    Also found it strange the American anti AI marines weren’t familiar with those explosive sticky bombs the ai was using. Were these brand new weapons they were testing out just for this movie? Always threw them by surprise
     
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  25. digitalsea

    hate my favorite band

     
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