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Discussion in 'Politics Forum' started by Melody Bot, Sep 10, 2022.

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  1. St. Nate

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  2. Ferrari333SP

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  3. Victor Eremita

    Not here. Isn't happening. Supporter

    I am not seeing nearly as much condemnation of Israel bombing Gaza to rubble and killing civilians. I’m seeing pretty much none from politicians and media. It sure does seem like people are focused on Hamas, calling them terrorists (and applying that to all Palestinian violent resistance) and then calling what Israel is doing a counter attack. Altogether Palestinians are still seen as the aggressors and Israel defending themselves and reacting to a terrorist attack.
     
  4. David87

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    id say that’s still the majority, but I’m seeing way more statements and sentiments include something about Palestinians deserving to be free, living in bad conditions, calling actions on both sides bad, etc…then I ever remembered seeing in years passed
     
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  6. Greg

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    In my personal feeds (meaning people I personally know), I see some blaming Israel and viewing them as the root cause of all this. When it comes to what news videos or politicians that pop up, I only really see Pro Israel. I see a lot of “Israel is a major ally” and such. You’re right. The public message at large is pro Israel.
     
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  7. Does seem like this will escalate wider:


     
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  9. Long Century

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    This clip from a protest in Sydney is going around


    Our state media coverage


    Commercial media, generally more inline with public opinion.


    Also Murdoch has a media monopoly here, I won't even bother posting any of that but it's a very significant chuck of traditional media, last I heard estimated at upto 70% of print.
     
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  11. Immortal1001

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  12. Going to clarify a previous statements. Israel’s violence against Gaza is different in both scale and character than any Hamas has committed. I might be convinced that the scale is the major difference when we are talking about personal violence, war crimes committed by individuals in person face to face. But Israel’s worst crimes by orders of magnitude are not these crimes. Gaza does not have the ability to inflict collective punishment on Israel by cutting off their water, electricity, fuel, medicine, commerce, movement. Gaza does not have an air force, does not have an intelligence apparatus, does not have and take advantage of systematic opportunities to blackmail parents of sick children by disallowing from them seeking chemotherapy abroad - it is not available in Gaza - unless they become an Israeli intelligence asset. Even on “Israeli 9/11” Israelis do not understand a fraction of the terror of Gazan’s everyday existence
     
  13. David87

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  14. additional_pylons

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    It also I think highlights effectively how the reporting on this will continue to unfold - major news sources will lean on these kinds of scary, emotional stories as well as mention unsubstantiated claims (i.e. choosing to mention beheadings they can't verify, etc.) to capture people's emotions. The folks in this thread and many of my friends are capable of adding their own context which is missing - the history of settler colonialism, barbarism against Gaza, etc. but people like my parents are going to read this and feel very, very differently. And that's not great! No mention of why there's a fence there in the first place. Not even a passing mention of why some of this might be happening.

    Also just want to say on a personal note that I've lurked here since the AP days and y'all have formatively changed my perspective on so many things, so thanks for that.
     
  15. oncenowagain

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  16. David87

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    We must construct more of this person^^^^
     
  17. additional_pylons

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    Also if you guys know of any way to say 'I get most of my news and politics updates from a pop punk forum' that doesn't sound completely unhinged, I'm open to suggestions lmao
     
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  18. St. Nate

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  19. St. Nate

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    just dont mention that, ever.
     
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  20. David87

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  21. iCarly Rae Jepsen

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    A true journalist never reveals their sources
     
  22. Brother Beck

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    this reminded me, but when I tried to listen to the Blowback podcast on Amazon Music after it kept being mentioned, the only result that came up was a Perez Hilton podcast from a few years ago. it was not the Blowback I was looking for.
     
  23. St. Nate

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  24. additional_pylons

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    I'm halfway through season three right now and it is so compelling and meticulously researched. Would recommend tracking down the actual one haha. You can also pay like 25 bucks for the whole year to support them directly and that gets you access to the new season

    https://blowback.show/
     
  25. Brother Beck

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    I am broke AF because Joe Biden is bad at economy and not because I like to drink expensive Japanese vodka and buy heritage leather work boots to do absolutely no manual labor in and wear to the office, but I am going to try to just be an adult and pay for it in the near future
     
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