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Yeah all those things were tried and it only got worse for Palestinians. This is what it takes

 

I will say the unpopular thing and point out that the rhetoric being used isn’t going to help convince the normies that you’re right on the issue hah

but yeah any sane person who looks at the whole situation should have known something like this was coming. The way Israel has escalated the last few years was almost assuredly going to lead to a blow up

 

The amount of “you just have 6 billion to Iran!” Dumbassery I’ve seen today should be illegal.

yes, Iran pulled off 6 billion dollars worth of arms deals and got the supplies to Hamas in 2 weeks. If they’re that efficient, we should let Iran do more shit for the world

 

You can be against an apartheid state and treatment of Palestinian civilians while also realizing that Hamas is a terrorist group and these are atrocities taking place. This isn’t some black and white thing. And the ironic thing being how subsets of leftists cheer on revolutions happening that will just increase the influence of more oppressive anti women and anti lgbt regimes. Easy to be an ideologue behind a keyboard.

 

Hamas is the elected government of the Gaza Strip. It has an armed wing. Good.

 

Is it harder to both sides this behind a keyboard? Seems easier tbh you get to avoid the difficult realities of decades of suffering and oppression coming from one side

 

Would love to see how the average progressive American would do under Hamas regime. Especially as a woman or gay person.

 

No nuance allowed in one of the most complicated geopolitical issues of the last century! Only reactionary bloodshed of innocents! Not allowed to condemn killing of innocents on both sides!

 

Would love to see how apartheid apologists would do under Israeli occupation. Probably hard to think about progressive values when you don’t have access to potable water and generations of your family have been displaced and killed by occupiers

 

progressive Americans have supported Israeli settler colonialism for decades. I dunno, maybe don’t support Israeli repression of the secular PFLP and help Hamas to power in order to divide Palestinian resistance.

 

Against apartheid and Netanyahu. If being against innocent Israeli civilians being murdered makes me an apartheid apologist, I’ve got a lot of other terrible comparisons and long stretches to make.

 

“Have you gone to Israeli Pride? So cool.”

- progressive gay American

 

I’d defer to people here that know more about Israeli politics than I do, but is it possible this is “huge scandal that finally gets bibi shitcanned” and not bush 2001 rally around the flag?

 

But at this time placing most of the blame and condemnation on those being oppressed does not seem to be against apartheid. This is how apartheid continues and escalates, by acting like an unfortunately inevitable response to it is black and white terrorism. I agree it’s a tragedy but it’s at the feet of Israel imo if you are against their apartheid

 

I’m not condemning innocent Palestinian civilians who have been abused for years. I’m condemning Hamas and Jihadist Islamic forces murdering innocent Israeli civilians

 

Why are you doing that

 

once again. Israelis are culpable settlers that support the settler state.

Hamas is the elected government of the west bank and has done wayyyy less terrorism than the Zionist state.

 

“Innocent Israeli civilians” is a loaded phrase when dealing with an apartheid state that also has mandatory military service.

 

Because I wouldn’t support members of the taliban murdering you and your family because the Bush administration started an occupation in the Middle East that has continued for decades.