Foxing - Draw Down The Moon (August 6, 2021) Album • Page 86

Hope the band sells a bajillion copies of the reissue but I think I’ll pass personally. Don’t know most of the artists doing covers (ok boomer) and it’s also my least favorite foxing record by a mile.

 

I'll listen at least, but I don't like the original album and don't know the new bands

 

I was wondering how they would address the Rory situation with the new tour coming up. It was kinda funny how both foxing and hotelier had a pretty similar situation with having a song they kinda disowned from their debuts (I think Christian convince Foxing to drop it from shows). Now we see if Housebroken makes it out.

 

Pretty sure Christian’s said in the past that a home full album playthrough would be the only way they’d play housebroken again

 

What's the issue with Housebroken?

 

It’s a poorly-done and thinly-veiled metaphor to detail domestic abuse

 

While they have come out and stated every interpretation of it is legitimate, originally it was supposed to depict the relationship between people and the state. Once people started talking up about how it comes across as being what you said in your post (and in this context being seen as a very insensitive account of the subject) it quite quickly soured the song for the band and they stopped playing it as a result.

 

I’ve honestly always thought the lyrics on that one stunk, especially relative to the rest of the album. Just think it’s very sloppy and, frankly, cringe at times

 

Pretty much everything about it is a step below the rest of the album. It stands out so much.

 

In context, it’s also very jarring coming right after life in drag. That decision has always puzzled me

 

They don’t play Housebroken because people took it to be a metaphor for domestic abuse when Christian wrote it to be a metaphor for someone who is abused by a capitalist/police state. The metaphor makes a lot more sense how they intended but so many people interpreted it differently that they stopped playing it entirely.

 

Christian talks about it here on the e-word podcast if you want to listen to his words about it. I timestamped the podcast in the link to the discussion about Housebroken but the whole podcast is very cool. It’s a deep dive on the entire Home album.

 

To quote Christian, they say the song about “somebody who is under the abuse of the state and the abuse of a lot of the systems we set up in society and their not wanting to detach from that.” It’s a very anti-capitalist and anti-hierarchy song. In the whole episode of the e word podcast I linked, they talk about these concepts (anti-capitalism, systems of oppression) many times as they talk about the entire Home album. They are common themes throughout the album.

 

If you follow Christian on Twitter or have listened to interviews with him, they talk a lot about politics. It seems like they have an anarchist/libertarian socialist politic (very different than “normal” American libertarianism), and are very anti-capitalist and anti-hierarchical. In my opinion, you can really fill in any system of oppression (patriarchy, police, etc) in Housebroken’s metaphor and it makes sense.

 

If you want more info about Christian’s politics, a few years ago I saw someone ask them about it on Twitter and they linked them this podcast episode. I’ve listened to it and it’s interesting, refreshing, and kinda funny.

 

Thank you. This has been my Housebroken manifesto

 

in other news, there's a very slight cool breeze in my area, so MM's s/t is being played today

EDIT: just realized they just hit the 10 years release a few days ago

 

moving mountains was always on my radar but one of those bands that I never put much effort into listening to

 

waves sucks

 

it's ok but s/t is incredible

 

Everything Moving Mountains has put out is perfect. Their sound really evolved throughout their run but I love all of it. I think each of their releases has been my favorite at some point but S/T has been my favorite for the past few years.

 

I like Waves, but I don’t love it like I used to back in 2011/2012, but I still have a lot of love for Pneuma, Foreword, and the self-titled. All three are still among my all-time favorite albums/releases. Their split with Prawn is great too

 

Waves is fantastic and I will never understand how it got such a bad reputation

 

Man. I had forgotten how much I love their s/t. Can't believe it's been 10 years.

 

Self titled is GOATed