Fall Out Boy - So Much (For) Stardust (March 24,2023) Band • Page 46

It is more of the same good Fall Out Boy songs

 

I have fundamentally disagreed with this for years. I think what they’ve done since IOH is super traceable from there to now.

 

I'm not saying there's not a natural progression in the sound, I don't think there's like sudden complete pivots into new territory, but I don't see how you could say that AB/AP sounds like FUTCT for example

Like I would say that the singles from the new album sound much more like one specific era of FOB than another one

 

And I have never understood how people don’t see parts of what they did in FUCT and IOH in some of those songs, they seem so obvious to me that it’s been my argument for decades (?) at this point.

 

I feel like you're deliberately missing my point... are you saying that Centuries would be right at home on Cork Tree? Nobody would bat an eye?

 

What I wrote ten (ugh time) years ago:

“But instead of looking backwards, the band reconvened and doubled down on the direction they’d been traveling since they first walked from “Dance, Dance” to “Thnks Fr Th Mmrs” to “Headfirst Slide into Cooperstown on a Bad Bet” to “Alpha Dog.””

I believe this is as true today as it was in 2013.

 

No. But I’m saying there are other songs that are clearly threads from that era (reused portions in a few cases) and there are songs on that album that have clear lineage to their past and the differences are overstated by pointing to outliers. Which is why I don’t think this album is far removed from the last four, and a continuation of the bands sound. All of which I can easily draw a line from.

 

no one is saying centuries would sound at home on FUTCT. (it doesn’t even sound at home on the album it’s on). the point that many of us have been making is that the divide between pre hiatus and post hiatus fall out boy is imaginary and only exists because it’s perceived as a long break. for what it’s worth they broke up in 2009 and came back in 2013, a four year hiatus isn’t even that long now that they’ve been back together for over double the time they were ever apart. and so if you imagine that SRAR came out, say maybe, two years after folie with no hiatus how much would we be talking about a divide in sound?

 

Again, I'm not saying they didn't have a natural progression in their sound, I'm not talking about their "new" sound after the hiatus, I'm just saying that I think the new songs clearly sound more like Folie a Deux's sound for example than they do AB/AP. Those albums have clearly different production and songwriting styles, that's literally all I am saying

I know I've been vocal in the past about how much I dislike AB/AP (but I do really like SR&R and MANIA) but it's not because I think it's like this completely unexpected departure, I'm fully aware that they were heading towards that sound anyway. SR&R sounds like a natural progression from FAD and AB/AP is just more of the SR&R sound

 

I’m saying there are songs on this album that don’t feel removed from the best of AB/AP though. And SRaR. And Mania. And Folie. And IOH. It’s not a huge divide, it’s the band being … the band they’ve been for a long time, but moving between the margins.

“Favorite Record” could be on this album and I wouldn’t consider it out of place. For one example.

 

This is what I was looking for lol, so it's basically taking aspects of different stages of their progression and putting them together on one album?

I feel like we're basically talking about the same thing here

 

And I will also say that people said this exact thing about IOH and Folie songs, and then now use those albums as the definition of their “old” sound. Which confuses me. The “they changed so much” albums becoming the ones used to say how they used to be, has been a wild ride.

Anyway, album is very good. I just agree with Patrick that it’s not a throw back “pop punk album.” I think it’s them doing what they do very well; my argument for 20 years I think.

 

All Fall Out Boy is good, this will continue the streak.

 

It’s just going to feel good to see that notification of a new FOB album in my library. Been a long 5 years.

 

Saw this while looking for clips from the listening parties

 

There's clips of Hold Me Like A Grudge out there and it reminds me of this, but with crunchier guitars.

Definitely hyped

 

I wouldn’t. It’s not an album full of songs like LFTOS but if anything, I’d say it’s very Soul Punk-inspired at times.

 

Honestly, people referencing Soul Punk repeatedly makes me so incredibly excited - I adore that record

 

This is so true…. I left the FOB boat for a while after IOH but now listening to that and Folie they are much closer in sound to CorkTree and TYTYG…to me I hear a difference in the “post hiatus” albums and personally it’s not my thing but it’s not like it’s thaaaaat different

 

it’s barely even the songs on post-hiatus that are that different, just a difference in production from Neal to Butch

 

I mean Patrick has talked about returning to pre hiatus lyric/vocal cramming for this album so it's not like it's only about production or that there are no substantive differences btwn eras to speak of.

 

Sonically it sounds like a missing album between Folie and SRAR, but it doesn’t ignore what they’ve been doing for the past decade, which is a good thing.

 

Damn it. I assumed the listening parties were happening because this came out today.

Curses.

 

lol, same.