The Last of Us (HBO) TV Show • Page 89

It did seem a little rushed, like if that doesn’t work you just killed off your chance at studying how immunity could work.
Also if you’re going to to do it just do it and tell Joel later lol don’t do the Bond villain thing.
But much like the rampage killing a building full of armed people this is a game adaptation so I’m fine with it.
Overall good finale, good season of tv.

 

But seeing as she is unique, they couldn’t possibly know what they need until after testing. Then Ellie is dead and testing material is limited. They don’t know if it will work.

 

The way you all were talking about the giraffes I was expecting zombie giraffes or something. Was pleasantly surprised to get just a nice sweet scene

 

Yeah, I get why they'd cut out the brain eventually, but it's an awful opening move if they want a chance to do actual research and testing

 

great now i need this

 

as a non game player, i felt this. kind of felt like joe and ellie went to father/daughter relationship overnight. otherwise, i'm all in.

 

Also there are like, a lot of ways to take SOME brain material without killing the person haha.

 

yeah my wife was like "why they gotta take out the whole brain for that" and I don't know enough about brains or wives to answer her

 

"That doesn't sound right, but I don't know enough about brains to dispute it"

 

I mean let's not forget how desperate these people are, and also that they're not likely working with state of the art technology.

 

So overall, I thought the season was great and well worth the wait and hype... It had a few pacing issues, and in my opinion, it does need more infected next season. Not for the action, but just to ground the world in that threat and make sure there's always a reason for the world being the world that it is.

As far as the ending goes, I'm definitely team not Joel...

he basically admitted to Ellie that he wanted to kill himself and couldn't find a reason to keep going till he met her. It was an absolute act of cowardice because he was scared of having to live alone again. Yes, the fireflies took away Ellie's agency in the choice, yes they are portrayed as a terrorist group - how are they going to distribute it and to whom? and yes - I know it may not work (it's clearer in the show than the game that it will but not 100%) but despite all of that, I view the ending as a selfish and cowardice act. If he really cared about Ellie, he could have taken hostages and said 'you're going to wake her up and ask her!'. All he cared about was his saving his one anchor to living. Nothing more, nothing less. Dude just didn't want to be alone at any cost anymore. I don't want to say he doesn't care for Ellie, but he cares more for the spark/purpose he's given her then Ellie herself.

 

I thought this was said weeks ago?

 

Regardless of questionable methods, am I supposed to just accept that the cure is a thing that would've worked? Cause I feel like they didn't really give any reason to believe they could even make the cure (besides Marlene just saying it, which always felt more like fantasy than a real plan), let alone have the means to produce and distribute it.

 

I think they just confirmed a season 2. Not outright confirming they would be splitting the contents of the game across more seasons. Even though fans assumed so

 

I mean, of course Joel wanted to protect the spark that had him feel alive again. I would hope nobody would deny that, but he also wanted her to live in general. Joel also views her as a new daughter. Another chance to protect someone. He feels he failed Sarah. He can’t just accept that’s the end for Ellie. Which is an internal reason about him again, sure. But I dunno. I think having multiple deep reasons to save someone’s life is a good thing.

Humanity is terrible. Save the girl, lose the world.

 

January 29
"And speaking to IGN earlier in the month, co-showrunner Craig Mazin indicated covering that particular game wouldn’t be a one-and-one affair. 'It’s more than a season’s worth of television, for sure,' said Mazin. 'It’s a big animal to take apart, you know? Because it’s a much bigger story and it’s a more complicated story.'"

The Last of Us' Second Season May Be a Two-Parter

 

I swear one of them said something like, “if we get to go beyond this season, the second game will be split between seasons.”

 

I don't think they even knew if it was going to work tbh.

 

Casey Bloys (head of HBO) said it would be done in two seasons a couple weeks ago when he went on The Watch podcast. I do think one of Craig or Neil said 2 as well.

 

Whether the cure would actually work or not is kinda besides the point. It's their only shot, and Ellie is disposable in service of that goal. Even if they're only 10% sure it would work, they're still going to try.

 

Ellie is not disposable.

 

I agree with Joel. Especially after the shit he’s seen people do to each other why the hell would he sacrifice someone good to save humanity?
Hell if given the choice before a zombie apocalypse you’re going to sacrifice a kid to do what, watch humanity fight over oil while climate change eventually makes the planet a living hell for most people?

 

I guess we're just not tagging things now but I'll still try to be sort of careful and no S2 spoilers!.

If she chose to be, she is. I think the whole point of the ending all comes down to agency, and that neither side in the fight gave her any, and I think that's what makes it so morally ambiguous/debatable. If Ellie had been awake and Joel did what he did, then it changes the narrative entirely. But since she was asleep for it all, and then lied to... yeah... it doesn't sit well with me, despite the obvious father/daughter protect your own theme.

 

Ellie is disposable to the fireflies in the sense that they're fully willing to lose her if it means finding a cure, is what i think the point was. she is certainly not a 'disposable' character for the story.