2022-2023 NFL Season Thread • Page 178

I will overrate Josh Allen (DE) forever because of this

 

Just like I overrate Myles Jack forever lol

 

Lol I don't mind dolphins fans being right. And if you'll recall, I was an early on believer in Tua. It's the digging up old tweets like there's some perfectly curated excel sheet of every tweet that didn't universally praise Tua over the last two years that I find strange lol. Like, ya'll are 5-3 and tied with the Jets for 2nd place. Maybe it isn't "we kept the receipts" time yet.

 

I get it...I do

but people were out here saying that Tua was trash, etc etc and he was NEVER trash. Was he ever THIS good? No. But like Elf said, people acted as if he was some bottom 5 QB which was NEVER true.

 

Football fans over-do it? More at 11. lol

That's what I find so wild about it. It's like Tua is the only young QB to ever catch that behavior. From my viewpoint, he's not. Maybe I just am surrounded by more Dolphins fans but it feels like they took that shit farrrrr more personally than Eagles fans did with Hurts or Cowboys fans did with Dad or whatever. Idk, just odd. Feels like it all hit a nerve not normally hit.

 

I didn’t log them all but I definitely remembered the scores of “Stafford is the problem/won’t ever get it done” takes from many throughout his entire career so I understand Dolphins fans feeling vindicated and won’t hate too much. Tua has been great this year, I hope he keeps it up.

 

There's a common denominator here.

 

can we bring Brian de la Puente out of retirement?

 

I mean, that's a whole different discussion. If the conversation is, are black QBs graded on a more scrutinized level than white QBs? The answer is obviously yes. But That's not really what I'm looking at. I'm more so looking at the "SEE WE WERE FUCKING RIGHT AND YOU WERE FUCKING WRONG!" That seems to be cranked up to 800x with the Dolphins fans and I don't think that has much to do with race. I chose Hurts and Dak as examples but I could have easily also included Josh Allen.

 

Cowboys fans with Romo is an easy pick (ayy) for this too

 

I wasn't trying to start a whole big conversation or rain on @xbrokendownx's parade btw lol. It just struck me as odd when I saw a couple dolphins fans I follow responding to old af tweets like "SEE STRANGER ON THE INTERNET! YOU SUCK!" lol

 

I'm not gonna dunk on people that didn't believe in Tua but it's definitely worth dunking on people who had the dumb take that he was a bottom tier QB when there's just literally no evidence whatsoever to think that

 

the stuff right now (ie. Tua >>> Herbert after 7 good game) is stupid, but in their defense, this is actually a WE WERE RIGHT AND YOU WERE WRONG scenario because most of the players you’re citing either had no real expectation before breaking out so there wasn’t much to be wrong about (ie. Hurts, Dak) or played actively shit football before breaking out and the haters were right in the moment (ie. Allen, the jury is still out on Fields)

 

Post-Draft Rank:

1. Baltimore Ravens
2. New York Jets

3. Kansas City Chiefs
4. Detroit Lions
5. Atlanta Falcons
6. Seattle Seahawks

7. Houston Texans
8. Washington Commanders
9. Arizona Cardinals
10. Philadelphia Eagles
11. Carolina Panthers

12. Los Angeles Chargers
13. Tennessee Titans
14. New York Giants
15. Indianapolis Colts
16. Green Bay Packers
17. Jacksonville Jaguars

18. Minnesota Vikings
19. Pittsburgh Steelers
20. Las Vegas Raiders
21. Buffalo Bills
22. Denver Broncos
23. Miami Dolphins

24. Cleveland Browns
25. Dallas Cowboys
26. Cincinnati Bengals
27. New Orleans Saints

28. Chicago Bears
29. New England Patriots
30. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
31. San Franicsco 49ers
32. Los Angeles Rams

Current Rank (in no particular order):

Historic Drafts:

New York Jets
Seattle Seahawks

Franchise Defining Drafts:

Baltimore Ravens
Detroit Lions
Houston Texans

Looking Good:

Atlanta Falcons
Chicago Bears
Dallas Cowboys
Indianapolis Colts
Jacksonville Jaguars
Kansas City Chiefs
New England Patriots
New York Giants

Okay:

Cincinnati Bengals
Denver Broncos
Green Bay Packers
Las Vegas Raiders
Los Angeles Chargers
Philadelphia Eagles
Tampa Bay Buccaneers

You've Got One Guy Holding the Whole Thing Up:

Buffalo Bills
Carolina Panthers
New Orleans Saints
Pittsburgh Steelers
San Francisco 49ers
Tennessee Titans

Not Great, Bob!:

Arizona Cardinals
Cleveland Browns
Minnesota Vikings
Washington Commanders

Fuck Them Picks:

Los Angeles Rams
Miami Dolphins

 

Here to tell you that the Eagles’ draft is, in fact, Looking Good

 

they have zero starters and their first rounder is going to miss a third of the season.

 

Ravens trading their second round picks is actually a very good thing. Osemele probably the only great pick on that list with it too early to tell for 2 most recent players. Bowser is solid but injury prone.

 

I feel really good about our draft this year. The team around them just isn’t good enough around them. But Pickett and Pickens I are great. Leal has been a solid piece. And even UDFA Warren is showing up when he needs to.

 

Davis has been playing a crucial role for them in odd fronts as one of their most important rotational players and has been dominant at it. Just because he’s not playing close to 100% of the snaps doesn’t mean he’s just been “okay.” It’s not his fault the Eagles have been so dominant that teams are mostly passing on them in the second halves of games. Him getting hurt and being projected to miss 4-6 games shouldn’t be a knock against him either. The injury doesn’t take away from his first month and a half of the season

Also think it’s unfair to hold it against Jurgens and Dean as being backups when Kelce is arguably the best center in football and the Eagles have gotten good LB play out of both Edwards and White

Just weird that their draft class was praised and now is getting dinged when expectations didn’t really change. Davis was never going to be a full-time player in year one and Jurgens was always going to be a backup. Dean is really the only surprise, but it was also surprising that he fell to the third round so they’re just letting him develop as a backup for now

 

And fuck it here's a mock if the season ended today

1. Detroit Lions - Bryce Young, QB, Alabama
2. Houston Texans - CJ Stroud, QB, Ohio State
3. Carolina Panthers - Will Anderson Jr., EDGE, Alabama
4. Pittsburgh Steelers - Peter Skoronski, OT, Northwestern
5. Seattle Seahawks (via JAX) - Jalen Carter, DT, Georgia
6. Las Vegas Raiders - Myles Murphy, DL, Clemson
7. Houston Texans - Jaxon Smith-Njigba, WR, Ohio State
8. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Bryan Bresee, DT, Clemson
9. Philadelphia Eagles - Nolan Smith, EDGE/LB, Georgia
10. Jacksonville Jaguars (via SEA via DEN) - Quentin Johnston, WR, TCU
11. Arizona Cardinals - Bijan Robinson, RB, Texas
12. Chicago Bears - Jordan Addison, WR, USC
13. Green Bay Packers - Brandon Joseph, S, Notre Dame
14. Detroit Lions - Cam Smith, CB, South Carolina
15. Indianapolis Colts - Paris Johnson Jr., OT, Ohio State
16. New England Patriots - Kayshon Boutte, WR, LSU
17. Washington Commanders - Broderick Jones, OT, Georgia
18. Cincinnati Bengals - Michael Mayer, TE, Notre Dame
19. Atlanta Falcons - Kelee Ringo, CB, Georgia
20. Miami Dolphins - Jahmyr Gibbs, RB, Alabama
21. Los Angeles Chargers - Trent Simpson, LB, Clemson
22. Seattle Seahawks - Antonio Johnson, DB, Texas A&M
23. New York Jets - Jordan Battle, S, Alabama
24. Baltimore Ravens - Jalin Hyatt, WR, Tennessee
25. Carolina Panthers (via KC) - Hendon Hooker, QB, Tennessee
26. Dallas Cowboys - Josh Downs, WR, North Carolina
27. New York Giants - Will Levis, QB, Kentucky
28. Tennessee Titans - Noah Sewell, LB, Oregon
29. Minnesota Vikings - BJ Ojulari, EDGE, LSU
30. Buffalo Bills - O'Cyrus Torrence, IOL, Florida
31. Philadelphia Eagles - Brian Branch, S, Alabama

 

That's why it's too soon to tell! I'm not knocking them, I just can't praise the performance of people who haven't been playing either.

 

Why is Canada still employed.

 

Warren has honestly looked better than Najee

 

Then you gotta make a new category for them pls

 

oh lol i see. i combined "Okay" and "Too Soon to Tell" lol my bad