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Round of 64: (30) The Hotelier - Goodness vs. (35) Paul Simon - Graceland Bracket • Page 3

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by phaynes12, Aug 8, 2022.

  1. Bartek T.

    D'oh! Prestigious

    That's true, I don't know it too well & already casted my vote with my heart, but that's the good thing I'll have something to pay a closer look to!
     
  2. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    I feel like Graceland would have a tough time if it came out today, actually. There are some thorny conversations about that album and cultural appropriation as is.
     
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  3. OotyPa

    fall away Supporter

    For sure! There was a time when I probably would’ve voted for Goodness… and that time was before I ever heard Graceland! Honestly jealous of anyone who gets to closely listen to it for the first time.
     
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  4. Leftandleaving

    I will be okay. everything Supporter

    Graceland is a great record but I have connected with maybe three albums the way I connect with goodness. I don’t think it’s a shocker that probably the most acclaimed emo band of the past twenty years is doing this well lol
     
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  5. OotyPa Aug 10, 2022
    (Last edited: Aug 10, 2022)
    OotyPa

    fall away Supporter

    I’ve always viewed (and I still view) the album as collaborative rather than appropriative, but yeah, you’re unfortunately right that the discourse would probably be even more critical in 2022.
     
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  6. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    I'm inclined to agree with you! And I think there's been some pretty nuanced writing on the album that makes that distinction. But conversations around these things are...rarely nuanced.
     
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  7. Artdmg

    Onward, progress, or so it seems Supporter

    This one is painful. Love Hotelier but Graceland is an all-timer.
     
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  8. marsupial jones

    make a bagel without the hole Prestigious

    Not that I pay super close attention to anything on this site but I had no idea The Hotelier was as beloved on this site / in the “emo world” or whatever until this thread. I’d heard their name from time to time but never noticed they had a diehard fan based or a die hard record or two
     
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  9. OhTheWater

    Let it run Supporter

    Or they just connect to Goodness more. Haven’t we had enough discussions about assuming a person’s musical ignorance based off of what they vote for? Graceland doesn’t click, I don’t think it’s an all timer. Goodness, on the other hand, does
     
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  10. OotyPa

    fall away Supporter

    An assumption but I don't think it's that outrageous to assume more people on this site have listened to Goodness than they have Graceland :shrug: In general, this forum attracts way more emo listeners than fans of Paul Simon or really anything from the 80's
     
  11. Surfwax

    bring on the major leagues Supporter

    Only bad thing I will say about Graceland is s&g have 3 better records and paul s/t is better too
     
  12. phaynes12

    https://expertfrowner.bandcamp.com/ Prestigious

    and all 5 are better than goodness
     
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  13. irthesteve

    formerly irthesteve Prestigious

    Paul has so many good albums
     
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  14. There is no reason it should be this close lmao wtf Graceland 4 eva
     
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  15. SpyKi

    You must fix your heart Supporter

    Goodness isn't quite on the same level as Home for me but it's still one of my favourite albums of the past ten years. I like Graceland a fair bit but it's never really connected with me much on an emotional level. Easy pick.
     
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  16. phaynes12

    https://expertfrowner.bandcamp.com/ Prestigious

    by one vote (42-41), Goodness moves onto the Round of 32
     
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  17. phaynes12

    https://expertfrowner.bandcamp.com/ Prestigious

    this batch sucked lol
     
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  18. OhTheWater

    Let it run Supporter

    Eat shit nerds!
     
  19. AgonizingFir

    Currently Distracted Supporter

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  20. irthesteve

    formerly irthesteve Prestigious

    End the brackets now