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Lizzo Updates “GRRLS”

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Melody Bot, Jun 14, 2022.

  1. Melody Bot

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    Lizzo has released a new version of “GRRLS” after some criticism that the song contained ableist language.

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  2. Former Planets

    Aaaachem!

    I mean she also talks about cuttin' dicks off
     
  3. thenewmatthewperry

    performative angry black man Prestigious

    ???????????????????????????????????
     
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  4. Former Planets

    Aaaachem!

    "'ma go Lorena Bobbitt on him so he never fuck again, no-oh, oh
    Now you can't fuck again, bro"
     
  5. tyramail

    Trusted

    Genuinely asking, is that really on the same level as a slur?
     
  6. Former Planets

    Aaaachem!

    No. Just goofing. Love her response though.
     
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  7. According to those who are affected by it, it seems so.
     
  8. thenewmatthewperry

    performative angry black man Prestigious

    Oh damn I didn’t know who that even was
     
  9. Eml182

    Regular

    Are we going overboard with this stuff?
     
  10. Mort Michaels

    Father, Son, and House of Gucci

    I mean, there's only upside: that less people are hurt, and the song maintains the same quality.
     
  11. whyte39

    Regular

    Try some empathy on for size.
     
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  12. Sean Murphy

    i'll never delete a post Supporter

    no
     
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  13. derekjd

    Slow down, Quentin Supporter

    Choices like this make me happy. Language is such a small part of ableism, but the way we communicate and the words we choose start to dictate how we act and think. I was a little disappointed to note that, at least when I learned about this on Monday, the post that she/her team made announcing the change lacked alt text, and couldn't be easily read by people who rely on a screen reader. However, accessibility/usability is a rapidly changing area of practice, actions like this, and Jason Isbell's sensory processing areas at some of his recent concerts, go towards making a more inclusive community.
     
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  14. Eml182

    Regular

    you can’t swing a dead cat without offending anyone. Do you even know the word that she changed?
     
  15. Sean Murphy

    i'll never delete a post Supporter

    at the ironic risk of being ableist myself, can you not read?
     
  16. Eml182

    Regular

    Well good luck with all of that. As times get tougher, idealism hits a wall. Tale as old as time. Accepting differences and having “empathy” somehow equals policing slang. Exhaustion for no reason.
     
  17. tyramail

    Trusted

    I just don’t get what’s so hard about someone saying a word can be offensive to them and then you say okay cool, I won’t say it anymore and then moving on with your life.
     
  18. Sean Murphy

    i'll never delete a post Supporter

    I’m not too exhausted by it. Its pretty easy to stop using offensive language.
     
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  19. ForestOfAllusion

    Old Aesthetic Prestigious

    I have muscle spasms in my leg, and I am not offended by the term. I think people are just looking for reasons to police each other's speech, especially in art forms. Akin to someone saying they have OCD over some mundane thing, disregarding people who have clinical obsessive compulsive disorder. We want people to feel comfortable, but the world isn't comfortable. Same with speech. Very rarely does someone say something that everyone will agree with nor is any less respectful or disrespectful to use slang. Most people aren't assholes, and do not specifically say something in order to offend people. I also find policing art to be wrong. I am not minimizing if someone says, "this offends me," but I am trying to understand a world where language is dead because the words we used are no longer allowed. Or in this case, a small twitter minority of people deciding a word now is offensive and badgering a pop star to change their art.
     
  20. tyramail

    Trusted

    I think a lot of the comments Lizzo received were positive and “learning moments” about why that word can be hurtful, it didn’t seem like she was being badgered moreso educated by the people the word effects. I’d argue she took it that way as well, hence why she changed the lyrics. There’s a difference in not agreeing with someone because of their words and the words being offensive to a group of people. With the vast amount of words to use in this world, it just seems weird to die on the hill of “we’re going to run out of non offensive words to use at this rate”. Changing one word in a song seems like a stretch to claim she’s having to alter her art. Which again, she chose to do. So if she chose to do so on her own accord, no one then is really forcing her to change her art.
     
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