Ozark (Netflix, 2017) TV Show • Page 20

I would not say Jonah is the moral compass of the show. He’s also a criminal. He just hates his mom because she’s the worst and she killed his uncle

 

I just need a signature

 

I do not agree with this at all. At best, if Jonah was shooting the jar with a shotgun and somehow miraculously doesn't kill the guy who is holding it.... he's still protecting his parents from not getting caught for the countless crimes they've committed as well as the multiple murders they've been a part of (most of which Jonah knows all about). So he's not really a moral compass any way you cut it. He's already been laundering money, but now he's basically accepted that he's completely on board with his family's way of life.

 

I think the point of the finale is that sometimes the bad guys do win

Or course you’re rooting for Ruth by the end of the series - everyone around her has died and she’s dug herself out of the hole, but Wendy Byrde don’t give a fuck

That Koch’s and Kennedy’s line was one of the last ones in the show, not by accident

 

The point of the finale is that the writers had no idea what they were doing.

 

Yeah, I'm fine with a bleak unhappy ending. But this was just a drawn out meandering...nothing. everything just felt pointless

 

The point of the finale is a fine cynical one, maybe a lot of people were rooting for them to win, idk not me I wanted Ruth to win and Wendy to die. Regardless it was all a mess leading up to the ending lol.

 

I might have felt better about the ending if Marty left Wendy after all was said and done

 

Didn't season 3 end with that photograph of the family and Wendy is smiling and Marty has that "uh oh" look on his face?

I thought for sure that they were angling towards a Marty vs Wendy battle and season 4 did touch upon this a few very brief times. When the Snell woman had a heart attack and Wendy at first just sat and watched, I thought that might be the tipping point. Then there's that conversation in the hotel room in PART 2 where lines are supposedly being drawn. But every time it pointed in that direction, the next scene would act like it never happened. Marty snaps and beats the piss outta that guy and the result is "I'm hard to love", "No you're not". WTF? I would rather they fail miserably taking a chance but they just seemed content to tread water.

 

Yeah Marty’s constant forgiving and saying he loves Wendy just doesn’t make sense

 

yep

 

Also that Killer Mike cameo was baffling

 

Looking forward to the follow up season 10 years from now when they're a random family living in upstate NY.

 

Yes, but now we will at least know where the spin-off series about Killer Mike and Ruth discussing classic hip hop albums will have originated from.

 

finally finished this last night

Lets say, I am...underwhelmed? I get it, sometimes the "bad guys" win, and I am okay with that...I just feel like the way that they ended it was almost rushed

Overall, still one of my favorite series ever though.

 

I've tried to articulate why I feel underwhelmed as well, and I think it's because there's no clear "motive" for Marty and there's no clear reason why the Byrdes "won".... Like, was there anything more the show was try to say and what was the overall takeaway? Like you, I get that it was sort of saying "bad guys win sometimes", but why these two in particular? They are just a couple of bad people immersed in a sea of other bad people (were they smarter, more determined, even worse?)

Why do they get away with it when everyone else inevitably pays the price (cartel, Ruth, Snells, KC Mob, etc.). I'm still lost on that. The only reason they seem to beat everyone else is because people like that ridiculously stupid PI pretty much hand them the trophy lol. All of this ambiguity and lack of a clear narrative direction is why I felt underwhelmed.

 

that suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked.

 

that whole accident meant NOTHING?!? 4 people just uber home from the site of a crash like that?!!?

 

man this is a slog. wife and i are trying to get through season 4. just finished the episode where ruth murks javi and thought we were wrapping up with 10 episodes only to see there are 14 this season?! what the fuck do they have left to do?

 

Oh, just you wait

 

pain

 

I gave up. Too many good shows

 

i'm still mad about how this ended

 

Not defending it but I think it was to demonstrate and foretell the ending that the family is bulletproof and nothing would happen to them.

 

I mean what’s her name literally says they can’t die after the accident. So dumb.