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Yeah, I have no issue with that at all, like I said there's a ton of games that cater to that because a lot of people like it. I just find it silly to come into something like Elden Ring and then complain about certain design choices that are like the bare minimum of respecting you and your choices as a player.

I don't go play a kids game and then get annoyed at how easy it is.

 

I think it's fair to disagree with design decisions without being accused of hating a game ;)
I don't *love* everything about Elden Ring, and yet... okay that was a lie, but you get the point.

Also I feel like if you squarely only play games to relax and enjoy life or whatever then you should know better than to buy Elden Ring lol

 

That was in Bloodborne too with the dudes that steal your insight right? And that had a hard limit on how many could be found (if you weren't using chalice dungeons)

 

oh yeah, that too. Plus in the early Dark Souls games you'd end up with less health when you died lol. Or Demon's Souls making the world more difficult every time you died. At least this game doesn't do anything like that.

 

I do have a lot of complaints about Elden Ring but they're mostly personal complaints like not liking the mechanics of certain things and not really me thinking they're necessarily bad design or should be changed. I think for the most part the game should exist as is because it's clearly amazing, even though they happened to make a large amount of bosses that I don't like facing in FromSoft games haha. I do think it makes up for that though by having a few that are truly amazing like Malenia.

It is very apparent I started with Sekiro.

 

The Demons Souls thing was so annoying, not even like absurdly punishing but just made me annoyed haha

 

Only complaint I had with this game that wasn't just me being frustrated in the moment by fight I was attempting is the performance problems. Aside from that, no actual complaints at all.

 

I didn't even know it was a thing the first time I played and kept dying in the last zone wondering why it was so damn hard lol.

 

To be fair, the world tendency thing in Demon's Souls does have a pretty easy solution: don't die.

 

Read one of those “5 things to do before you play Demon’s Souls” articles because it was my first souls game and them telling me to kill myself in the Nexus when I was in human form was huge. I feel like I would have been super frustrated otherwise. Especially because world tendency isn’t explained all that well in game

 

Yeah since it only goes down when you die in human form, it really does make sense to try to play as much as you can in soul form and then only swap to human form when you're making a serious run at a boss and need the extra HP.

 

I feel like that in general frustrated me too just because it kinda made the mechanic feel dumb, that I could just kill myself in the Nexus and be fine for whatever I wanted to do. I get that there's still drawbacks to being dead in general but it just wasn't a mechanic I really enjoyed, felt like while the idea was good it didn't add much to my experience

 

The idea of world tendency is cool as hell, but it should be something that the player is able to opt-in. Like, if I want to make the world more difficult for greater rewards or whatever, it should be a choice I intentionally make. They've dabbled in mechanics like that in later games but I would like to see the Demon's Souls version of it come back in a way that gives more intentionality to it.

 

Yeah I'm definitely glad they dropped it moving forward.

 

it certainly is pretty stunning how I can straight up stay I like the game and the souls stans will still complain that you hate the game for daring to suggest the game could possibly be better

 

I haven't played a From game in my life and you don't strike me as someone who is having a good time.

 

I’m sorry reading is so hard for you (though you are correct that there are parts of the game I haven't had a good time with. hence why I've pointed out they could be better)

 

Uh oh, someone's getting salty.

 

yeah the souls stans do get salty when you point out the game could be better

its part of the reason I like to complain about it

 

putting myself through a game i'm not enjoying to own the Souls fans, who all enjoyed the game

 

God knows I’ve not heard anyone suggest anything for these games that wouldn’t be a detriment to my enjoyment.

like, I play and enjoy them precisely because of what they’re like. You don’t go into someone else’s house and rearrange their furniture either. I hope.

 

I just wish they'd fix the rune distribution a tiny bit (not necessarily increase or decrease, just kinda scale better)

I do think the update to upgrade materials was good

 

you don’t have to show your butt online for free anymore, there’s tons of websites where you can charge people for this

 

Maybe I'm just talking out of my ass (likely) but I think a lot of the camaraderie/sense of community goes away if you take away rune loss. My favorite part of the Elden Ring experience so far has been playing it early (this is my first FromSoft game I've played on launch day), reading messages from other players on day 1, leaving messages for others to help in difficult situations, getting trolled, general discussion on how to deal with troublesome situations, etc. and I think the threat of losing your runes heavily encourages how much players want to interact with each other about these things. Not to say that like, guides or discussion in general wouldn't exist, but I think there's a certain energy to the way it's done now that feels different than any other open world game, and I think the message system is largely there because of the rune/souls loss system