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Accountability in Music • Page 652

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by OhTheWater, Nov 14, 2017.

  1. sophos34

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    at least pinegrove was relevant to this community at one point, it feels more appropriate to post about them than a lot of other stuff thrown around here. not to have the convo for the billionth time but it’s not like a page of people pointing out how horrible Chris brown and Ronnie radke are is doing anything for anyone besides…can’t think of anything. but y’all are free to post about whoever you want it’s just a lot of the time it’s people we’ve always hated and always will because they’ve always been pieces of shit and always will. seems weird to draw the line at pinegrove content when again we’re pointing out yet another shitty Chris brown thing for what?
     
  2. ItsAndrew

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  3. Cameron

    FKA nowFace Prestigious

    Trash
     
  4. phaynes12

    https://expertfrowner.bandcamp.com/ Prestigious

    get fucked
     
  5. ItsAndrew

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    I wish Coachella would do what other festivals did for DaBaby and pull him from the lineup. Especially given there’s a likely chance that he will bring Manson out on stage.

    I feel awful for Evan Rachel Wood and the others who he abused for having to deal with hearing about Kanye giving their abuser a platform.
     
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  6. OhTheWater

    Let it run Supporter

    Save the whole "the author doesn't know the specifics" shit. Pitchfork played an integral role in the rehabilitation of their image, and now they have quotes like this in the new review:
    Pinegrove: 11:11

    Really infuriating stuff
     
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  7. yeah but allegations ruin careers
     
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  8. OhTheWater

    Let it run Supporter

    Yeah I mean this isn't even a discussion about Pinegrove, we've been down that road so many times before. It's the fact that a major publication like Pitchfork has not done their due diligence to ensure that everything happening is okay in the eyes of the survivor, and then continuing to double down on it.
     
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  9. phaynes12

    https://expertfrowner.bandcamp.com/ Prestigious

    saw that and actually physically cringed. really baffling stuff.
     
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  10. sophos34

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    is anyone else even giving them press like that, like why do they feel obligated to review every album of theirs still its weird
     
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  11. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum

    Not sketchy at all

     
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  12. ItsAndrew

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    Even if the accusations turn out to not be true (keyword: IF), that still does not excuse the creepy things they have said on stage and their creepy behavior on stage e.g. collecting bras)
     
  13. ItsAndrew

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  14. ItsAndrew

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    I forgot to add that the above article claims there are allegations against Dance Gavin Dance, Black Veil Brides, and Motionless In White, which I’m not sure are publicly known.

    CC: @trevorshmevor re: the person on Twitter who said there were 7-10 bands with allegations, here’s three more apparently
     
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  15. youll be fine

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    It says against former members of all 3 of those bands. All 3 are known assuming they’re talking about Johnny Craig in regards to DGD
     
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  16. Madmod

    Lurking

    I know this comment is old but I searched the history of this thread and found it.

    Saw that drugs put out a new song and I was curious about where he was standing with chorus. I am just a random person on the internet who can say anything without proof but a former friend of mine told me she met Craig when she was 16 and they exchanged numbers. She said he would ask for nudes among sending other sexual messages. He knew how old she was but apparently didnt care. This was occurred during the chiodos warped tour years of course but she didnt mention it till 2012.

    Your post nails it.
     
  17. bedwettingcosmo

    i like bands who can't sing good Supporter

    not surprised at all.
     
  18. just bringing this back up as the statutory rapist's band are back
     
  19. Cardia

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    I remember being in 7th grade and hearing the same sort of shit about Craig Owens from people just a couple years older than me. I was grossed out by it at the time and I'm still grossed out by it now.
     
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  20. Sean Murphy

    i'll never delete a post Supporter

    Yeah, Craig was absolutely a creep.
     
  21. Blainer93

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  22. ItsAndrew

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  23. cherrywaves

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    From First To Last
     
  24. Henry

    Moderator Moderator

    I'm on a long car trip and decided to listen to some Eminem. Marshal Mathers LP and The Eminem Show have so many lyrics about being cancelled, in so few words. He has to be one of the biggest examples of someone only benefiting from protests like that.

    Were people decrying cancel culture then?
     
  25. paperlung

    there's no place like my room Supporter

    it wasn’t named that but there was a pretty big public response to his lyrical content