Paramore Now Have Songwriting Credit on “Good 4 U”

Can't say I like or agree with that decision at all.

 

I don't understand how? Is it because the song was influenced by Miz Biz?

 

Love paramore but I think this would make more sense to me if miz biz didn’t sound like every pop punk song from 05/06.

 

seems as though this is paramore's publisher and not hayley that's pushed for it? lame cash grab but it is what it is i guess

 

Then she can surely just send the checks back to Olivia?

 

theoretically i guess

 

I don't see this as a cash grab in the slightest, considering 2 other songs on the album had to be retroactively credited to Taylor Swift & Jack Antonoff. 3/11 songs on the album had to be retroactively credited to other people, that's a lot. You shouldn't be able to just take people's intellectual property, change it slightly, & profit it off of it without giving them writing credit.

Edit - I think Sour is really good and I hope she has a long, successful career

 

The whole blood in the water moment this album is having is disgusting me.

I can't imagine being a young musician today navigating the increasingly malleable line between influence and plagiarism, hoping your favorite artists don't SUE YOU because the "spirit" of your music sounds like them.

 

Haven’t there been claims now about 4-5 songs being stolen? Not saying it was on purpose but moving forward she better start paying more attention because it’s not a good look

 

I'd argue the problem is the overly litigious "copyright" lawyers and not those inspired by music that put a new spin on history.

 

As far as I know the song Taylor Swift is credited on was not done retroactively at all. I'm very confident Olivia sought out Taylor's approval to interpolate New Years Day before recording & releasing One Step Foward, 3 Steps Back.

Also, if we are talking about "just taking other people's property" It's pretty well known that unlike most pop stars Olivia writes 90% of her own music. A lot of her stuff on Sour she had written a year prior to release and performed draft versions of on Instagram Live.

This screams money grab to me after some fans gave it a Misery Business comparison which to me the songs aren't that alike. You name a popular song out there and if I dig enough I can find riffs, beats, melodies and or lyrical similarities to it to make a stink over. I'm not a fan of this trend happening in music. There are only so many chords to go around.

 

Deja Vu was retroactive, 1 Step Forward was when it was released. So only 18% of her album copied something from other artists without permission as opposed to 27%, my fault. I write music heavily influenced by tons of artists without intentionally copying them. Are there similarities that exist in music I've never heard before? Absolutely, that's inevitable. Did I intentionally and knowingly recycle an influential artist's melody/chord progression/etc? Nope.

 

I enjoyed this guy's breakdown and comparison of the two tracks (actual analysis starts at about 1:20 into the video)

I kind of reached a similar conclusion. The songs are stylistically really similar at a foundational level (slightly different keys, close tempos, nearly identical chord progression for the chorus) which is inevitably going to make them sound similar. With that in mind, there are going to be certain melodic choices that just sort of fit, so the vocal melodies sound similar but do not actually match up when placed next to each other. There's one melody there that overlaps ("but I got him where I want him now") but meh. To me, it just seems like she wrote a song in the style of Paramore/"Misery Business" but I wouldn't call it a copy by any means.

 

None of this music is copied. You will see shit like this overtaking the music industry for every artist except in genres like pop country who basically know all their music is recycled copies of other #1 singles and have accepted it as the norm.

Shit like this will destroy the music industry. Nothing is fully original anymore and kids exist to troll the internet and find ways to tear people down.

 

One thing I want to add. If Paramore deserves writing credit on Good 4 U than most top pop hits have a line of at least 20 other artists that deserve writing credits on them.

Let's just cancel everything. No more new music allowed.

 

This is SOP. Tom Petty ended up with royalties on a Sam Smith song. The chorus is pretty similar to Misery Business melody wise, i thought that the first time I heard the song.

 

Also should note these credits are added to AVOID major litigations - the process is in place now and are set precedent. This avoids a ton of disputes.

 

The first time I heard this song I actually thought it was a Paramore b-side.

Anyone know what happened with the Courtney Love situation? Olivia's Prom special ripped off the iconic Live Through This cover pretty blatantly, even though that may be more at the fault of the photographer/creative director.

 

good 4 them

 

The Courtney Love situation had to do only with the album cover. I read an article on it when it happened and really believe it was mostly an unintended coincidence but was fine with the credits being given there bc the photo down to the makeup and flowers was all very close.

It was a "Sour Prom" and the photo Olivia's team used was Olivia as a sour sad prom queen. The photo was inspired by some of the most popular lyrics on the entire Sour album, "if I looked like the other Prom Queens I know that you loved before" so I gave it a pass as an oopsy.

 

The comparison between the two has never crossed my mind and after reading this it still doesn't.

Unfortunate result in my opinion.

 

you really like defending this girl don’t you?

 

Step 1: Steal Song
Step 2: Get Famous
Step 3: Get Caught
Step 4: Give Artist "Credit"
Step 5: See Step 1

 

Some of y’all don’t understand music as much as you think you do and it really shows