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Yellowcard – When You’re Through Thinking, Say Yes

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    These days, bands don’t really break up: they go on hiatus. Occasionally, you’ll get a band separating more deliberately – doing or saying or writing something that makes it clear this break is meant to be permanent. More often, though, bands just stay dormant until they want to do it all over again – the recording sessions, and the press interviews, and the grueling tours – and then they reconvene. From Fall Out Boy to My Chemical Romance to Blink-182 and beyond, this narrative has played out repeatedly in our little music scene over the years. 10 years ago this week, it happened with Yellowcard.

    Yellowcard are unique in that they’ve had both types of endings: the temporary one, with a hiatus designed as an indefinite time away from the music industry; and the permanent one, with a proper send-off album and farewell tour. When the band announced their hiatus in April of 2008, though, most fans probably would have bet on that being the period at the end of the sentence. “It doesn’t have anything to do with turmoil in the band,” frontman Ryan Key said at the time. “It’s more of a…[we’re] facing adulthood now, and we can’t stay in Neverland forever. I think we just need a break.” The Peter Pan reference? The suggestion that rock ‘n’ roll is a young man’s game? The exhaustion that seemed to permeate the last sentence? These ingredients did not bode well for the return of America’s favorite violin-toting pop-punk band.

    And yet, when Yellowcard came back, they came back strong. The four albums that the band made between their 2011 comeback and their 2016 last hurrah play, in retrospect, as a complete arc: the refresher course after years away; the perfection of a signature sound; the experimental departure; the summation and goodbye. That journey starts a little more than 10 years ago, with the opening violin salvo of the song (“For You, and Your Denial”) that broke Yellowcard’s silence after the three-year hiatus that followed 2007’s Paper Walls. We premiered that song on AbsolutePunk and it felt momentous, like a prodigal son returning. In four hours, the song got 45,000 streams and crashed the website. It felt like a different time: before artists broke their own new songs on their Twitter feeds, sites like ours had the privilege of playing a major part in the hype machine. And boy, the hype for a new Yellowcard album was off the charts.

    When You’re Through Thinking, Say Yes is, in retrospect, a pretty prototypical “reunion” album. It doesn’t take any huge risks, nor is it content to completely repeat the playbook of the albums that came before. Instead, When You’re Through Thinking provides a lot of the signifiers that fans loved about earlier Yellowcard – catchy, summer-soundtrack-worthy pop-punk (“With You Around,” “Soundtrack”), lots of violin (“For You, and Your Denial,” “Life of Leaving Home”), the token acoustic ballad (“Sing for Me”), the big emotional finale about growing up (“Be the Young”) – but fits those cards into a slightly more mature deck. Opener “The Sound of You and Me” is the tone-setter: a big, ambitious, two-part suite that proclaims, fittingly, “I’ve never been more ready to move on.” Yellowcard were ready for bigger, better things than what they were leaving behind – and they’d prove that point on ensuing albums, which took bigger swings and refined the core elements of the band in more satisfying ways. Here, they were getting their muscle memory back, and they did so in such a way that immediately made a compelling case for their continued existence.

    Reunion albums are sometimes disappointing. Even without the added complication of a hiatus, it’s hard for a band to recapture the magic of the albums that made people fall in love with them. When a band “breaks up,” that difficulty factor gets dialed up to 11. Knowing you might never hear another new album from a band you love forces you to delve deeper into the albums you already had. In your mind, you build up the ones you loved anyway, upgrading “likes” to “loves” and “loves to “all-time classics.” You might even come around on the albums you never liked much and start heralding them as misunderstood masterpieces. Inevitably, if and when the band you love comes back, you’ll have such monumentally high expectations that it will be hard for anything to meet them.

    When You’re Through Thinking, Say Yes was kind of the opposite for me: I liked Yellowcard quite a lot pre-hiatus, to the point where Ocean Avenue was the first album I played on the first day of summer after I graduated high school. But I was hardly a die-hard fan, which actually put me in an ideal position to approach this reunion album. When I heard it, it blew my mind. To my ears, “The Sound of You and Me” was the most impressive, accomplished song the band had ever recorded. The other tracks carried with them the flavor of an idyllic summer season—something I was yearning for amidst a cold, snowy March, in the middle of the worst semester of my college career. For weeks, I listened to nothing else but this album, trying to summon summer a little bit sooner. From the anthems to the sad songs, it felt deeply comforting to me in the midst of a not-so-great time. When the moment finally came for me to pack the car and get the hell out of my college town, I drove away to four months of freedom with this album blasting on the car stereo.

    I still love this record, even if it ended up getting eclipsed for me by the albums that came immediately after it. Southern Air, in my mind, is Yellowcard firing on all cylinders, taking their summer-flecked pop-punk sound to its natural apex and conclusion. And Lift a Sail, while often forgotten or derided by fans, is the most emotionally bare record Yellowcard ever made. When You’re Through Thinking, Say Yes is something a little bit simpler: just a damn solid set of songs. “The Sound of You and Me” surges and howls with arena-sized expectations; “For You, and Your Denial” floats on a forebodingly beautiful violin figure; “With You Around” and “Hang You Up” are the best pop songs the band had written since their Ocean Avenue heyday; and the closing trio of “Sing for Me,” “See Me Smiling,” and “Be the Young” hits with a metric ton of emotional poignance, signaling ahead to the deeply moving end-of-youth themes that would dominate Southern Air.

    10 years later—and five years after Yellowcard’s second sign-off, that one forever—it’s even harder to fathom that bands like this ever occupied a place in the mainstream consciousness. Pop music culture has moved on so entirely from this type of band and this type of sound that memories of hearing “Only One” on the radio scan as almost alien—even though I remember those days fondly and vividly. But there’s something timeless about the music these guys made together, something that keeps me coming back to their records for new experiences even after a lot of the pop-punk bands that got famous around the same time are now mainly nostalgia listens for me. Yellowcard were just about as good as any band ever was at capturing the skipping-heartbeat possibility of a youthful summer, or at writing songs about the unique, melancholic twinge of coming-of-age. 10 years ago, with When You’re Through Thinking, Say Yes, they came back from a four-year break to deepen those stories and tell them again – and to have, for my money, one of the great second acts in rock ‘n’ roll.

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  2. Pepetito

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    Great review. Love this album.
     
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  3. mit_backwards

    Regular

    With You Around is probably my favorite song from them. Im in South Florida so you can pretty much drive around with the windows down all year long and this song is meant to blasted while driving.
     
  4. parkerxcore

    Somebody's gonna miss us Supporter

    Great review. Gonna spin this record and reminisce on the epic summer days in college.
     
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  5. AlwaysEvolving21

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    Craig, I like it when you write. Specifically about YC, Jimmy Eat World, and Dashboard Confessional.
     
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    Mrk_Brdshw

    Dusted Groove

    This is a perfect summary of this era of the band and of this record. I feel like this one gets overlooked at times because it was a simple, safe return, but it really doesn't have a bad song on it (including the bonus track). Maybe it's not their most ambitious, but it holds a special place in my heart. I was a regular listener of this band when Ocean Avenue dropped, but it was Paper Walls that really pushed me into "true fan" territory. So I was extremely pumped when I heard this album was in the works.

    Side note - I won a Yellowcard trivia prize pack from AbsolutePunk and Hopeless records when this record came out. It had a few stickers and an autographed poster in there.
     
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  7. sawhney[rusted]2

    I'll write you into all of my songs Supporter

    I’m very happy this record exists and has incredible songs, but it was way too safe and forgettable. But it lead into Southern Air, a defining pop-punk album, so I’m a fan.
     
  8. Elder Lightning

    With metal in my bones and punk in my heart Supporter

    I like the songs on this album but I almost never reach for this as a Yellowcard album I want to listen to. I remember even at the time it was released describing it as something like a greatest hits album of songs I had never heard before.
     
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  9. MightyBrian

    This is where I am suppose to write something cool Prestigious

    this is one of my all-time fav albums.
     
  10. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    I really hate on winter a lot, but there's something special about the first windows-down drive of the season after a grueling 4-5 months of snow.

    Why thank you!

    I even sometimes overlook this one myself, but it might have their most solid, consistent tracklist of any record. This one or Southern Air, for sure.

    I sometimes think of it as "safe" too, but Southern Air isn't really inherently riskier. It's just a little more thematically tied together.
     
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  11. Murph

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    Oddly enough I didn’t fully appreciate this one until after the acoustic version dropped. After that I went back and quickly loved the original as well.
     
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  12. vcmstone

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    One of my all time favorite albums by one of my all time favorite bands. The acoustic pairing is just as good, or better. I feel like this album started a run that you could argue is their best. I also feel like this album and Lift a Sail were never fully appreciated. But I still love putting this on, especially since it's my wife's favorite. I'm glad they came back, and I'm glad it was with this.
     
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  13. Punkrocker

    Wiping brings down the rainforest

    Great write up. This one definitely has a special place in my heart. The acoustic version was possibly the best acoustic album I've heard to date as well.

    As much as I liked this one however, Southern Air is the epitome of Yellowcard for me. That album is as perfect as perfect gets. Nothing defines summer like Southern Air.
     
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  14. earthlight

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    Great review. I love this record so much. Amazing memories, and the songs on it are *so* solid. Be The Young is one of my favorites from them.

    Still can’t believe With You Around wasn’t a single.
     
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  15. .K.

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    I always love it when a band is bunch of records in and they are still releasing albums that’s right there with their best. Not an easy thing to do. Plus, with WYTTSY with a comeback record it makes it even harder. Only Thrice’s To Be Everywhere Is To Be Nowhere comes to mind as a reunion album that I though was near the top of a bands discography.
     
  16. jackyjackyjack

    Regular

    The chorus of Soundtrack still gives me chills
     
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  17. This was a fun read. Wild how such a short hiatus, one that realistically wasn’t much longer than a normal break between records, felt suddenly like it’d been an eternity when the band returned. I don’t come back to this record much anymore, but I really couldn’t ask for more from a reunion album.
     
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  18. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    It's funny looking back how long some of those 3-4 year breaks between albums felt when I was younger, ha
     
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  19. JRGComedy

    Trusted Supporter

    Back then, a year and a half or two year turn around was the norm, but now it's for sure like a three-four year gap, especially bands that still make music in this "scene."

    This album never grabbed me much outside of the first four tracks, but I'll have to revisit it as soon as it starts getting warm around here again.
     
  20. brothemighty

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    Ten years goddamn am I dead yet
     
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  21. 182 Jack Mannequins

    Newbie

    'Hang You Up' is in the Top 5 of their songs for me. I wore the shit out of that song on my iPod when it first came out. I remember it originally being part of Ryan's side project he was gonna do before Yellowcard got back together and listening to the demo version of it on MySpace in the years before this album was released. I was so happy that he made it a full Yellowcard song.
     
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  22. billyboatman

    Garden Eyes - Movements

    So weird this popped up. Recently listened to this album again. For you and your denial is just so good.