The Starting Line Band • Page 57

Kenny never really got all that negative when talking about relationships with the opposite sex. Can’t necessarily say the same for relationships with media and record labels.

 

Surprise surprise is pretty negative

But in general, yea

 

I think "problematic" is probably the word @bobby_runs meant, as opposed to negative. Of course they have negative songs about relationships but the lyrics aren't gross in hindsight like a lot of other bands from that era wrote.

I mean, compare "Surprise, Surprise" or "Up & Go" to what Senses Fail was putting out around the same time lol

 

Still cannot believe Buddy re-recorded those songs and released them only like a year and half ago with the same lyrics

 

whoa, I had no idea about this. I don't really follow the band, but I listened to that first EP a lot back in the day. Guess I gotta check out the re-recording of it! Did they only do it for the EP, or anything else?

 

...he changed a bunch of the lyrics

 

Yeah, Buddy is on record saying a lot of the lyrics were juvenile haha

 

Did he? I coulda swore I remember listening to it and still hearing him sing pretty much all of the same incredibly problematic let’s

 

Yeah he changed stuff on the EP

 

Just the EP, and he included Bastard Son too

 

Senses Fail Re-Recording Old Songs to Remove 'B-tch,' 'Whore'

 

Huh, I’m listening to the new One Eight Seven right now and he’s definitely still screaming about stabbing, eating hearts out, and killing lol. Maybe he changed some other stuff and I’m just remembering that one.

 

Senses Fail Re-Recording Old Songs to Remove 'B-tch,' 'Whore'

 

Ohh, I forgot about the lyric in Handguns and was only accounting for the one in Bastard Son. That’s fair! I still think it’s a very odd move to remove those words and not the ones about killing women for breaking his heart though, tbh I’m surprised you think otherwise

 

listening to the Senses Fail re-record right now and it's not very good haha. Granted I never really loved the band, but this re-record lost a whole lot of spark and personality

 

I just sampled the re-record, it's really awful.

 

Same, very bad stuff

 

Agreed. Seemed to be the unpopular opinion in the band thread when it came out, but the re-record was just too polished and cold imo. Totally lost that raw energy

 

TBH the first EP is the only Senses Fail project I like front to back. I do like what they’ve done more recently though. The re-record took all personality out of the originals.

 

I liked the re-record but I also like the original recording, warts and all.

Senses Fail is the ultimate “I’m still a fan because I listened to them as an angsty teen” band.

 

when I think of bands of this era whose lyrics haven’t aged like milk, I tend to think of The Early November. in fact, the older and more anti-capitalist I get, the more TMTMTP resonates with me.

 

Senses first EP is so good.

 

Yeah The Early November is 10000000% another band whose lyrics have aged gracefully. The EP and The Room’s Too Cold absolutely still hold up lyrically.

 

The band has aged gracefully as well, their later releases absolutely stand up with their earlier. Extremely consistent

 

First TEN EP is probably their worst release.