The Smashing Pumpkins - Cyr (November 27, 2020) Album • Page 3

Is he self-producing? I haven't really researched that.

 

favorite songs on cyr would be:

dulcet in e
anno satana
purple blood
save your tears
telegenix
the hidden sun
schaudenfreud

 

Corgan self-produced this album yeah, but they've been putting his voice painfully high and dry in the mix since Zeitgeist. it gets painful to listen to, and I don't think he really needs more control over the band lol, for all intents and purposes this is a solo record

at this point in the game I basically listen hoping for a handful of great highlights (like "Being Beige" and "With Sympathy") rather than great albums. it's not really the way I like to engage with music, I'm all about optimism, but I can't get my hopes up with Corgan anymore

it's a shame because Oceania really does own and if they'd recorded an album in around '09 with some of that live material - like "As Rome Burns", "Gossamer" and "99 Floors" - it could've been absolutely incredible. but as ever Billy Corgan is his own worst enemy

 

I'm currently listening to it and am underwhelmed so far. Except for the opening tracks, it sounds really bland and the songs blend together way too much. As similarly said above, I have a hard time telling the songs apart and it seems to lack dynamics a lot. I had the same feeling with Monuments to an Elegy from what I remember. But let's see what the second half brings before I make more judgements about this release.

 

Working on this a few songs at a time, Dulcet in E and Anno Satana have stood out more so than Save Your Tears so far. Dulcet in E is actually quite pretty, and that one gets some of the most hate from what I read on other boards.

 

Yeah... I just finished it and there's very little I can imagine me return to. Purple Blood was the main standout of the second half.

 

Wyttch is a cool song but yeah this album completely blurs together.

 

Eye is one of my favorite Pumpkins tracks, but hardly any of Cyr comes close to that level for me so far

 

My thoughts exactly.

 

I dig the record but there’s definitely some filler with interchangeable tracks. This would have made for a really solid 13 track LP.

 

This is my ideal cut:

1. Colour
2. Cyr
3. Dulcet
4. Wrath
5. Ramona
6. Anno Satana
7. Wyttch
8. Starrcraft
9. Purple Blood
10. Save Your Tears
11. Telegenix
12. Schaudenfreud
13. Minerva

 

I've been imagining Billy sing these songs for a good 10 mins, and I'm not sure I want to be in that alternate timeline.

 

lmaoooo

 

This thing really clicked with me over the weekend, and I even had the thought that it could make a late run for AOTY for me. I think it’s that good.

Personally, I’ve been listening since the ‘90s, and I’ve never met a Smashing Pumpkins I didn’t really like. I’m not totally sure what all the hubbub is about with going synth heavy or being dance-y is all about - they’ve been all over the map most of their career, and even wildly jump around genres within albums sometimes. I dunno, this just sounds like the Smashing Pumpkins to me and I think it’s great.

 

This is not the same band from the 90’s...

 

I had no expectations, so it's whatever, but this is so inessential. The other guys might as well not even be there.

 

I enjoyed this album...as most said there is some filler but the more I listen the more I enjoy it....I think if this was a debut album from a random band it’d be praised more for originality but w the name Smashing Pumpkins the expectation is a certain sound that is not the same...I think that’s a good thing though as they’ve been making music for 30 plus years

 

Yeah Dulcet is also a stand out for me, which is why I'm so surprised it's getting hate online. Billy even said in an interview that the label and management were fighting him not to release the song as a single.

 

I just made a cut down playlist and it's almost identical to yours, except mine has The Hidden Sun instead of Telegenix.

 

I dig this record

It’s too long, a lot of it is pretty samey, but there’s a buncha great songs, especially in the back half.

I’ll forever be fan of bat strat SP, but this album has a cool vibe and some great melodies. Works for me

 

I love this album

 

lol i'm so glad i'm not alone

only false note for me is "tyger tyger," and i have trouble remembering how "black forest black hills" goes, though musically it is a very sick midpoint between joy division "new dawn fades" and the cure "the figurehead"

 

my edit:

the colour of love
cyr
dulcet in e
wrath
ramona
anno satana
birch grove
wyttch
starrcraft
purple blood
save your tears
telegenix
the hidden sun
schaudenfreud
minerva

i guess editing 20 tracks down to 15 isn't much of an edit but all of these songs are great. i also felt bad cutting "adrennalynne" and "haunted"