Taking Back Sunday Band • Page 294

I can't remember where I saw or heard Fred say this, but he did a podcast within the past few months where Fred said he did talk to some of the TBS guys following Eddie's departure about playing with them again and the guys didn't think it was a good idea or that the timing was right.

Also, I don't believe Fred was kicked out, I am pretty sure he left on his own accord. He's also said in the past he was miserable his entire time in TBS and did not get a long with many of the guys.

 

From recent talks about his time in TBS it almost seems like both him and Rubano didn’t get along very well with Mark.

 

It sounds like Mark didn't get along with many people tbh. Hated Mascherino, Rubano, and Fazzi.

 

If the rumors about Fazzi basically recording over Eddie and Mark parts with friends/studio drummers or whatever it was are true, I wouldn't blame him there haha

 

Oh wow I hadn't heard that, I agree that's pretty ridiculous if true. I'd be surprised that Fazzi would have that level of control though, considering the label pushed to not have Fazzis vocal tracks on there

 

Man I'd love a TBS documentary with every member interviewed lol

Also with Fred, I'm pretty sure he's a straightedge person and he didn't like the booze and drugs around at the time. I think even Adam said in that oral history that looking back he felt bad about that. Does anyone have a link to that story? All this talk is making me really wanna re-read it.

 

Only if they include the story of Adam hitting rubano in the head with the microphone on stage. Just typing that sentence out has me in stitches. Never get tired of it.
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cut me up Jenny is good

Miami sucks

 

I can see why people don't like Cut Me Up Jenny for the same reason I don't like Holy Water - those vocals are grating in the prechorus of the former, and the chorus of the latter

 

Yep, would love this so much. But I'm sure a lot of it is just dirty laundry stuff they'd rather not go into details about.

It would be a dream come true to have Fred back in the band though.

 

Team “Cut Me Up Jenny” Fucking Slaps, here

 

wow the takes about "Find a Way" today are wild lmao. one of their best closers

 

one of the more memorable tracks on the album imo

 

Can’t remember if I said it here or fb but I think it’s one of, if not their worst song. Loathe it.
I think Miami, error, 20/20, up against, Jenny are all great. Always found it strange that those LN tracks were the controversial ones.

LN has always felt more like a collection of songs than an album to me, but in a really good way. The songs each stand on their own, it feels the most experimental, there’s an edgy/raw vibe to it, it’s almost as if they’re all B sides from another TBS album. None of that makes sense but idk, LN just feels like the angsty unrefined cousin of all the others. I wish they’d added Brooklyn and sleep without taking anything and just made a really good collection of 13 songs.

 

There was like a summer where I was pretty into Louder Now, but at this point the only songs I'd listen to on purpose from it are "Make Damn Sure" & "Brooklyn."

Though, in spite of only having a song or two (depending on if you count that b-side) that I like, I'd still rank it higher than the self-titled, I think. That one may have more gems ("Best Places," "This is All Now," & "Call Me in the Morning"), but... not that many more. And, the rest is on average worse than Louder Now for me. Just... not enjoyable.

At this point, if I'm in the mood for TBS, I basically only listen to WYWTB, tbh.

 

“Miami” is probably their best song. The drums on the chorus are catchy as fuck. The lyrics near the end are probably their best ever. And it has the only really notable guitar solo in their catalog.

Also “Holy Water” rules

 

“miami” solo fucks

 

oh man and then the bridge is fire

 

I'm with you on both points here! Sad Savior sounds like something a friend's band would've written in high school (instrumentally, at least).
I love all those other ones you listed. Error Operator always gets me pumped up at the gym. The rest are just great pop rock tunes.

 

It was really gratifying to hear Fred mention his love of The Police, cause I've said for years that Louder Now is their version of a Police album.

 

"Holy Water" is literally a perfect song thanks for your time

 

Yup, his vocals are out of tune in both songs. Idk how producers let him get away with that.

 

Miami is a good song, but it's let down by its chorus. But yes, the solo and the bridge, and the verses (I freaking love the verses) are fantastic. Seriously the verses on the song, between that police-esque guitar (good call out, @cshadows2887) and Adam's vocals are so damn fun.

 

I mean, Adam has never been, in a technical sense, a very good singer. I'm more interested in the emotion of a piece than him trying overly hard to stay in tune and losing that emotion. and goddamn "Holy Water" is an emotional song

 

The Holy Water comparisons to Jenny fascinate me, because I adore Holy Water but loathe Cut Me Up Jenny. But at the same time, I can completely see the similarities. The strained vocals on Holy Water sound passionate and necessary to the song. It sounds to me like someone who is suddenly realizing a hidden truth about themselves and unapologetically excited about it. On Jenny, they just kind of sound random and grating when coupled with the lyrics. The lyrics on Jenny have also just struck me as weird for a 29-year-old to have written. They're unhinged, but not in a good way. It's honestly one of the worst songs I've ever heard. But TBS is still one of my favorite bands, so I'll give them a pass.