Every Time I Die Band • Page 198

Yeah this is what a lot of people don’t get. Like yeah if my partner turned MAGA chud, I would be out. But with a kid I would imagine most people would work extra hard to educate their partners or something along those lines.

 

what

 

The Trump stuff is a slippery slope for me. I hate the guy, probably more than I've hated any other human being. That said, my dad voted for Trump, but like, I still love my dad? I imagine there's a whole other layer to it when you're married and have a kid with someone.

 

i do not expect someone to do that, no, but acting like it hasn’t happened and that no one has gotten divorced in the age of trump is foolish. i hope their relationship is fine despite her insane, disgusting beliefs, purely for the sake of their kids. i don’t think people discussing it is as big of a deal as some of you are making it out to be.

 

I never said that no one has gotten divorced over Trump. Just think it's a lame move to leave your spouse because they've succumbed to literal brainwashing.

I'm not all about the sanctity of marriage or anything, which is probably why I'm not married, and may never get married, but for anyone who decides to take vows, seems like you should exhaust all other options (marriage/mental health counseling) before just dipping, even if kids aren't in the picture.

 

I feel like most of the people that say they would leave their spouse or disown a family member for supporting Trump, haven't actually had to face that dilemma.

 

i have disowned several family members for spouting trump shit, including my own father. bet.

with trump, it is pretty safe to say that this likely is not a bridge most people ever would have had to entertain crossing ... until it happened.

 

Happy? for you...

I dunno... My dad is 70 years old. He's always been tolerant and fairly liberal my entire life. He voted for Obama... and then voted for Trump. I don't see this as him suddenly becoming a Nazi (he's Jewish btw), I see it as him being brainwashed by someone who was able to brainwash millions upon millions of people. Which is obviously a very scary/dangerous thing.

I'm not happy about it. I've had many conversations, which usually lead to arguments, with him. And I don't know if I'll ever change his mind, and yes, I think it's dangerous and hurtful, but also my dad raised me (and continues to support me) for the last 37 years.

Personally, I'd rather continue our relationship and try my best to learn from each other.

 

i’m more lenient towards people who voted for him for completely ludicrous and selfish reasons imo, but reasons still rooted in something “real” like taxes or all the bullshit lies that he fed them. that leniency lasted maybe six months. if it’s 2020 and you’re still supporting trump, nah, there is nothing for me to learn from you and you clearly aren’t listening to anyone in your life since you haven’t learned to stop supporting a fascist after four years

this isn’t it. nah. i’m not saying you have to change your mind about anything. acting like people’s curiosity about them when they’re clearly polar opposites in terms of their worldview is totally out of place is extremely odd.

 

I’ll always love my parents because they’re my parents but their rabid support for Trump, particularly my dad, has soured our relationship a lot. It’s to the point where I actively choose not to see him unless I have to.

And I can’t imagine being partnered with someone who actively supports fascism. It’s not just “we don’t agree on political opinions,” it’s way worse than that.

 

I’ve talked to my brother and friends about “could you date someone who supports Trump” and half think I’m crazy for saying absolutely not and half get it.

 

I get this. And I tend to agree with the idea of "forgiving" people for having voted for him 4 years ago, but not "forgiving" those that still support him. I guess it's all a personal decision, I just can't write off my father that easily. Now, don't get me wrong, I have my limits too. Eventually my mind might change, and I may have to distance myself from him more, but I'm hoping that we'll have someone else in office soon and that maaaayyybbbbee he'll start seeing things slightly different as time goes on.

 

I wouldn't ever enter a relationship with a Trump supporter, but if I already had a long term solid relationship with someone (like my father) and their belief system suddenly changed, I wouldn't just rid them from my life. I definitely understand spending less time around them though.

 

Won't go into detail, but you have my word there are several family members who should be very close to me that I haven't spoken to in years because of their ignorance, even before Trump was president. And now, they love that he is. So I REALLY don't talk to them now.

 

My mom almost voted for Trump and I told her face to face that if she voted for him - I wouldn’t speak to her for a considerable amount of time because I would be embarrassed and disappointed.

Thankfully, she listened.

That was in 2016. If I was close to anyone who still supported him in 2020 - I would cut them out of my life without hesitation. Dude is a full on fascist who’s gotten people killed with his gross mishandling of this pandemic. I completely understand people who don’t feel as strongly about cutting people out over this but in 2020 - I feel 10x stronger than ever about it.

 

He also grossly mishandled the protests and tear gassed a bunch of peaceful protesters for a photo op! And this is just what he’s done in the past few months and only briefly touching on things he has done!

 

The problem with Trump supporters is that it has become an identity. It doesn't just come up when you talk politics, he's inserted himself into everything, and it makes it hard to have any conversation with one of his supporters without it turning to him. Sports? Social issues? The pandemic? It will always come back to him.

 

Didn’t know this turned into a trump thread?

ready for that new album boys!

 

so, yeah, it’s interesting that jordan’s wife is a Q person and trump supporter lol. the last page is kind of indicative of that.

 

related to the discussion here yesterday...

haven’t looked at the replies yet, but i imagine they’re not great. (EDIT: not as bad as i expected)

 

Yeah, I just peeped her “new” twitter having not realized she hadn’t just taken a break after Jordan acknowledged fan questions, just switched over to a different account.

On top her account being public, she shows an extreme support for Trump, QAnon, and also retweets satire that makes fun of sports teams for changing their offensive names, downplays COVID-19, and reposts the dumbest, most doctored bullshit articles on the planet. I probably scrolled 30 tweets and realized I hadn’t even made it past 1 day. She’s full sail down that ship, and seems to also be an anti-vaxxer/complicit racist... and Jordan has deleted his tweets disagreeing with her.

She referred to the Portland protests as “nerd wars” and how she doesn’t need to be in the streets “flexing on soy boys” to get her message across because she publicly uses her real name and face to support Trump/Q.


So yeah. I don’t really care if I struck a chord on anyone’s favorite band. This shit is problematic, and I don’t feel the slight remorse I did for the off the cuff remark I made anymore. I’ve sworn off many bands I adored once and as I get older it gets a lot easier. I’m grateful Keith is publicly outspoken against people like this, but Jordan has a huge fan base he should be assuring he’s not aligned with this nonsense.

 

wow she has 173k followers? Shit man, is that all from being an ultra conservative troll? That's pretty wild

 

people love getting grifted

 

Zoinks

 

Unrelated but I just found a band called American Slang that showed up in my DW and I'm getting some slight ETID vibes.