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Nevada (fourth Republican primary) results:
Trump - 46%
Rubio - 24%
Cruz - 20%
Carson - 5%
Kasich - 4%

Alabama (fifth Republican primary) results:
Trump - 43%
Cruz - 21%
Rubio - 19%
Carson - 10%
Kasich - 4%

Massachusetts (seventh Republican primary) results:
Trump - 49%
Kasich - 18%
Rubio - 18%
Cruz - 10%
Carson - 3%

Those are five-candidate primaries representing the Northeast, West, and South, and Trump still came close to earning a majority of the votes in those races. Your position presumes that basically all Republican voters who voted for a candidate other than Trump would not have him as their second or third choice. If I remember correctly, such was not the case, and Trump was getting the most second choice nods from Cruz and Carson voters.

I think Americans are in denial about how electable Trump is within the GOP voter base. He would have won head-to-head against anyone in the GOP field. Heck, he beat Rubio by nearly 20 points in his home state by a share of 46% to 27%.

 

Remember when Alex Jones was in Waking Life and people thought he was cool?

 

Holy shit I forgot about this. Haha.

 

For everyone else's reference:

 

I mean, he's right, but Krugman has absolutely no place making commentary on journalistic integrity or impartiality. His credibility, though declining for some years, absolutely dropped through the floor this election cycle due to this hysterical (and grossly unprofessional) bias in the Democratic race, his arrogance in repeatedly assuring Trump's downfall (though most establishment journalists did the same), and his daftness as exposed by the cycle's unforeseen emphasis on free trade, on which he has now began hedging himself. As someone who once greatly respected him, which I certainly still do as a Keynesian economist, he can stick it with regard to "mediaworld".

 

He's not expected to be, nor has he ever been, impartial. He's not a "Journalist." He's an "Op-Ed columnist" (with an economic background).

 

I'm open to idea that weird things can still happen. Less open to the idea that weird things happening in the republican primary is evidence that weird things are likely to happen in the general or that prior general election predictors are no longer reliable.

Regarding the lack of enthusiasm, I go back and forth on it. In theory, I get why it could be a problem. It depends on how wide the distance is between "I'm voting for Clinton, but I'm not excited" and "I'm voting from Trump/third party/staying home," right? My guess is it's too wide for enough people.

 

As the nation's foremost economist, his columns are, and should be, expected to be logical extensions of the principles underlying his economic policy. As someone who has made his career on opining about income inequality and, later, the morality of being on the American left, his veracious backing of Clinton and slandering of Sanders and his supporters should be condemned outright as contrary to his work and to what people believe he represents.

To build a platform on income inequality and then use it to suppress a candidate aiming to address it for the benefit of one who is not is shameful.

 

No, his columns are what he wants to write about. He's a columnist.

This is silly. He can write what he believes, and lay out why, in his column. You and others can agree or not.

 

Then you/he should extend that leniency to his media colleagues. Democrats should stop getting a pass for being hypocritical.

 

I never said anything counter to that. What are you talking about? The argument I've made against the Republican "columnists" that say Hillary is only winning because of how bad Trump is, does not have anything to do with impartiality or bias or credibility at all ...

 

Policing isn’t just broken in Ferguson or Baltimore. It’s broken in America.

 

Trump Names Serial Misinformer Betsy McCaughey To Economic Advisory Council

McCaughey recently suggested that the United States was “heading into a recession” despite being unable to cite any evidence to back up her claim. She has claimed for years that Obamacare was doomed to fail and could ruin the American economy, only to be proved wrong time and again. In 2014, McCaughey became a go-to expert for right-wing outlets hoping to stoke fear about the spread of Ebola in the United States. She has even attempted to deny the scientific consensus on human-induced climate change. She has also never quite given up on her bogus lie that Obamacare would create “death panels” that enforce end-of-life decisions for American citizens. When confronted with her lies on the September 11, 2014, edition of The Daily Show, McCaughey walked off set rather than face further questioning.

 

The Rise of the Reasonable Conservative — The Ringer

 

yes he ends up being 2/3 choice Poll: Trump leads, but when it comes to second choice, Cruz is on top but i think if it was narrowed down it would consolidate things and change the results. when you have that many it skews things and makes it more volatile. its all hypothetical but i think a consolidated front of the establishment + cruz and maybe carson could have shut him out with effective messaging, which could have resulted in an equally horrifying cruz nomination but its all up in the air. so many different factors - like the paris attacks - that helped trump and were ultimately out of the party's control.

 

This Daily Beast Grindr Stunt Is Sleazy, Dangerous, and Wildly Unethical

 

America Votes with Cards Against Humanity

Today, we’re letting America choose between two new expansion packs about either Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump.

At the end of this promotion, Cards Against Humanity will tally up the sales of both packs, and depending on which pack gets more support, we will donate all the money in support of Hillary Clinton’s campaign.

 

I'd be really curious to see how the polls would change if Trump, whether fundraised or from pocket, actually spent big on his campaign-- just put $500 million into the machine-- instead of allowing Clinton to outspend him so heavily.

 

Trump to evangelicals: I need to win election to get into heaven

Well okay then.

 

I don't doubt that Trump can still win. There are a lot of angry people out there and a lot of them who hate Obama's guts. Now replace Hillary Clinton with Obama and multiply that by five.

The only thing I'll say about Trump is to those of you who neglect not to vote. Don't be bitching here or elsewhere the next day(much less the next four years) if he is elected. Same goes for Clinton to be fair.

Much less to those opting to vote the green party(which is your right). You know damn well it's between these two knuckleheads.

 

Also, is anyone else shocked at how many Sanders supporters have flocked to Gary Johnson? It's a real fucking phenomenon, even though Johnson's philosophy is diametrically opposed to Sanders' Hell, I'd be more comfortable with a Trump presidency than a Johnson one due to the fact that the American people's economic understanding is vapid enough that Johnson really could deregulate and privatize with popular support. Heck, even most Democrats that I know consider themselves "really liberal on social issues, but moderate on economic issues," which can also be a cop-out for ignorance.