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Discussion in 'Politics Forum' started by Melody Bot, Mar 13, 2015.

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  1. John

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    You can always bring those people in as consultants.
     
  2. aranea

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    Where's the evidence of Sanders being anti GMO?

    Bernie Sanders on Agriculture


    Calling for labeling is not the same thing as being anti GMO.
     
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  3. christsizedshoes

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    Eh, they have a pretty stark difference.

    Sanders: Bernie supports allowing states to require labels on foods containing “genetically modified organisms” (GMOs) based on the consumer’s right-to-know, but does not believe that GMOs are necessarily bad.

    Stein: Label GMOs, and put a moratorium on GMOs and pesticides until they are proven safe.

    I have no issue with labeling GMOs, even if I don't care about it personally. Talking about a moratorium, on the other hand, is pretty embarrassing.
     
  4. Dominick

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    This is an excellent blog-post. By looking at Trump as a singular being, as someone that is simply morally bankrupt, we ignore the context from which he arose and provide an alibi of sorts for the right-wing ideology he has come to represent. All of the terror warning systems, the see something say something campaigns, the Islamaphobic wars and clash of civilization narratives, fostered by both parties, but wielded with more vitriol by republicans, lead to the moment in which Trump attacked a Muslim family that sacrificed himself for a country that always viewed him with skepticism in the first place:.

    "Here we have an instance of a Democratic presidential candidate, a sitting Democratic senator, and a prominent antiwar activist—all with stories of patriotic, almost unthinkable sacrifice—subjected to a pattern and practice of humiliating, disgusting slurs and smears. By figures high and low in—and near and only slightly less near to—the Republican Party.

    That we can sit here and act as if Donald Trump’s indecency is a singular pathology rather than a systemic mode of politics, that we can treat his arrival on the scene as a novelty and innovation rather than the logical outgrowth of years of right-wing revanchism, that we would invoke against Trump the memory of an earlier, more decent Republican Party, present as recently as one election ago: that is itself a kind of collusion, an erasure of the past, a collusion with indecency. In the same way that it took no great act of courage for Joseph Welch to denounce a man who was already on his knees, it requires no bravery—or knowledge—to denounce Trump while exonerating the party and the movement that produced him.

    It is also a dangerous forgetting: after all, before you can cross a Rubicon, you’ve got to march quite a way."

    Trump’s Indecent Proposal
     
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  5. lauren14

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    Oof. I like the staggered terms when you look at Congress and the President. It seems to achieve he checks and balances if we weren't gerrymandering the hell out of districts.
     
  6. Dominick Jul 31, 2016
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    Dominick

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    If we're keeping things confined within the liberal democratic model, I'd dispense with the presidential system as a whole. It tends towards the consolidation of power and paralysis. Parliamentary government in the Canadian/UK mold, with proportional representation, would be "better".

    Edit:Obviously, worker-run democracies would be best. Ha.
     
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  7. lauren14

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    Honestly, no. The most frustrating people to work with are people who have no government experience. Government is not a business, not should it be.
     
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  8. Dominick

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    I mean, it is already terrible that politicians use personal finances as a metaphor for speaking of the nation's debt/finances.
     
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  9. Richter915

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    Agreed. Being anti gmo is another fad like gluten free and colonics.
     
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  10. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum

     
  11. DarkHotline

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    Well that's one way to shoot yourself in the foot.
     
  12. MysteryKnight

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    Except he isn't anti-GMO. He supports labeling, which is different.
     
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  13. Victor Eremita

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    reeeaaaching.

    My favorite part is the dismissal of Hillary actually contributing to climate change globally offhand because Jill Stein once again said she doesn't think autism and vaccinations are linked. Way to go liberals.
     
  14. We all contribute to climate change globally.
     
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  15. Victor Eremita

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    yes we all push for countries to expand fracking with little to no regulations, you had no idea what I meant.
     
  16. DarkHotline

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    We all have a carbon footprint.
     
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  18. Victor Eremita

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    Some of us have successfully advocated against mineral extraction the best we can, some of us have successfully intervened to end fracking bans in other countries and push for development. Pretty much the same thing!
     
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  20. Jake Gyllenhaal

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    Considering I've never been on an airplane, my carbon footprint has been minimal compared to most
     
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  21. DarkHotline

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    My god, what a vile dude. Stuff like that is going to make a Drumpf defeat all the more satisfying if it happens.
     
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  22. Jake Gyllenhaal

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  23. DarkHotline

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    [​IMG]
     
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  24. MysteryKnight

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    Plus, unless you're Amish, all that electricity you use has gotta come from somewhere, likely emitting lots of carbon.
     
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