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General Politics Discussion (VI) [ARCHIVED] • Page 2141

Discussion in 'Politics Forum' started by Melody Bot, Feb 19, 2019.

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  1. MysteryKnight

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  2. incognitojones

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    Rubin really really sucks
     
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  3. There's a lot of really good political tech places doing some good work (open source, some non-profit as well), and this entire shit in Iowa is going to set back a lot of those digital operations years. A lot of them need funding and progressive tech is something activists, dems, progressives should invest in. Really not great when someone fucks it up this publicly.

    Gonna promote this again, because it's dead on:

    The Shadow Economy: Why Campaign Tech Keeps Failing | Civic Hall
    The problem is structural, because the way we’re funding organizing tech is wrong. We need it to be based on open source technology. We need a community of companies, parties, and third party groups funding it. And it needs to have funding between cycles.

    There needs to be much more money going into organizing tech in order to sustain things. The Obama and Clinton campaigns spent tens (maybe hundreds) of millions of dollars on tech, but it was building tech which was mostly thrown away.

    We’ve got a few vendors that last between cycles, but all the techies who work on campaigns go back to normal startups. A couple days after Obama was re-elected in 2012, the political staffers walked into the tech floor of the Obama campaign HQ and wondered where everyone was. They’d all been laid off. Harper Reed had found them jobs in industry and everybody faded back into tech companies. From a staff of hundreds, a handful went to work at the White House or OFA, but for the most part that knowledge was all lost.

    It's not inherently bad to fund, and build these tools, we just have to be fucking smarter and better about it.
     


  4. Another round of data to pour through. Woo.
     
  5. It's ... cloooooooooooooooose.

    My tie for delegate prediction of 13/13 is still in play.
     
  6. Looking at some stuff and that Indianola 2 error that is affects Warren's first round still exists. Looks like Des Moines 14 should have another SDE for Sanders.
     
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  7. clucky

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    Looks like Sanders passed Biden for another national delegate! Pete is still probably gonna get the most delegates though =/
     
  8. PeacefulOrca

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    Imagine if he loses by one lol
     
  9. Leftandleaving

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    Not sure there’s anyone else in congress with a worse online presence than this guy
     
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  10. More satellite causes are here.

    50 out of 84.

    Looks like that did help close the SDE gap. So, that would mean ... he would need to average 9.3 SDEs in CD1/CD2 to maybe catch Pete ... but what else isn't in yet ... anything that looks good for Pete ... hmmm ..
     
  11. Leftandleaving

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  12. When you find out about Steve King and Dan Crenshaw you're gonna have a tough day.
     
  13. MysteryKnight

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    Disagree. At least he actually uses it in a more casual way to connect with his constituents as opposed to others who just have it controlled by staff with pre-scheduled tweets
     
  14. Leftandleaving

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  15. Ok ... I ... still can't predict a winner :crylaugh:

    It's gonna be really fucking close with these satellite #s.

    SDEs are gonna be very close. Delegates ... could tie! ... popular vote ... probably Bernie.
     
  16. clucky

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    What is the scenario you are seeing for Sanders to pull up to 13/13?

    The green papers data has him 10 SDEs back in CD4, 16 back in C13. Only 6 SDE back in CD1 but catching Pete there doesn't earn him another delegate. He's up in CD2 but already is getting an extra delegate there. So the 18 SDEs he's behind statewide might be his easiest route to taking another delegate from Pete but that seems like a lot of margin to make up with only 8% of the vote remaining...
     
  17. We spent all day, even had to talk about Tammy!, without this tweet being posted in here. I'm officially mad at you.
     
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  18. He's 17 behind. There's a miss in Blackhawk County still.
     
  19. David87

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  21. Under reported on in Iowa: why were the hotlines/phone systems so fucked up as well? Didn’t plan on needing as many operators? I’d like to know.
     
  22. PeacefulOrca

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  23. CarpetElf

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  24. At this point, I want Bernie to over take the SDEs, win all three ‘metrics’ ... and then we will get fun news cycles and questions at Pete for declaring he won prematurely. That won’t play well in NH at all.
     
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  25. wonder why
     
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