Joker (Todd Phillips, October 4, 2019) Movie • Page 35

My issue with that is why not just make it a Harley Quinn movie? Kinda feels weird for that arc to be in a Birds of Prey movie when it'll either a. not get the attention and focus it'd need to really be effective or b. completely sideline the titular team.

 

The trailer of birds of prey is complete shit me thinks

 

“Cuz I’m Harley freakin Quinn”

 

“Joker” Is a Viewing Experience of Rare, Numbing Emptiness

Given Todd Phillips’ quotes lately I find this passage seems correct, and Brody’s piece acknowledges the strange racial dynamic of the movie well.

 

The movie was good but this is one of the most psychologically dark films I’ve seen.

 

does this mean that DC has two Joker canon timelines running simultaneously? the suicide squad canon and the joker and batman canon?

 

I loved the film, about half way through my wife walked out for about 10 minutes. I thought she went to the restroom or to get a snack. After it was over she told me no the movie was just too heavy for her and she needed to take a break from it

 

Maybe I’m just desensitized but this movie didn’t even seem significantly dark or psychologically distressing to me. It’s not Lars Von Trier, it’s basically what you’d expect Todd Phillips to write if someone told you he was remaking Taxi Driver/the King of Comedy with the Joker.

 

Yeah, I’m a pretty fucked person so I bet it’ll just be lost on me lol

 

Watching this now. Will let you all know my thoughts

 

I didn’t think it was dark, but I would definitely call it bleak. Mostly because there wasn’t much life to it all / the cinematography contributed to the muted feeling, but I don’t think there was enough substance for it to be a “heavy” watch for me.

 

agreed. Given that she was the only well received aspect of Suicide Squad, it makes little sense to surround her with new characters we all might hate.

 

No, it's still funny. She's a murderous psychopath. It may make sense internally but then immediately falls apart in the wider context of who the character fundamentally is

 

Not seen this and not likely to do so anytime soon as it hasn't sparked any interest in me whatsoever but it has done well in terms of the box office, coming in at #1 in the US with the biggest October ever with $93.5m. Probably no surprise either that the opening weekend crowd skewed heavily male at 64% while 66% of the audience was under the age of 35.

 

It’s definitely not the bleakest in the “main character gets shit on by everyone and society.” There’s way more interesting, darker, nuanced portrayals in the mentioned Scorsese films or something like “Moonlight” or even an incredibly funny movie like “A Serious Man,” where the misery stacks up on one guy to an almost unbelievable degree.

 

This is probably the bleakest "blockbuster" we've gotten since The Dark Knight.

 

Fury Road had sex slaves. Everyone in Rogue One dies. I’m not sure I’d describe their tone as “bleak” but they certainly have bleak, dark elements.

 

this was well shot. love seeing grimey old city look.

But yeah the social commentary was politically toothless as already stated. clown rioters holding ''signs" lollll. Okay.

 

no mainstream film will ever touch Precious, that one transcended misery porn into full blown comedy

 

Someone previously mentioned von Trier, which brings Dancer in the Dark to mind. What exactly constitutes as misery porn? Honest question.

 

The only truly interesting wrinkle in this movie was the idea that the jokers laugh is a disease.

It was fine. Mostly toothless as others have said, only somewhat interesting stance it took was on mental illness and the funding of institutions that help treat it but even that is more subtext and small moments. If you’ve seen Taxi Driver you know the plot almost beat for beat. Phoenix is great.

 

“How long has it been since we’ve seen a movie aspire to the level of Stanley Kubrick?”

ok calm down

 

Also “no one wants to ask why two smart boys skipped their 4th hour AP French philosophy class at Columbine High to slaughter 12 students and a teacher”

well Dave Cullen asked why and how and it turns out they were violent, depressed, racist, psychopathic wannabe terrorists. If you look at the Joker as a movie trying to answer what causes a loner to turn to violence, then the movie seems to be saying that their reasons are legitimate because Arthur is beat up and brutalized many times. But most mass shooters are enthralled by violence and ideological hate from an early age. They’re not oppressed victims. This movie’s Arthur Fleck has nothing in common with the mass shooters we’ve come to know in recent years.

 

Also it's set in 1981
But it also says nothing about Trump's or Reagan's America