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2019-2020 NFL Season Thread [ARCHIVED] Football • Page 988

Discussion in 'Sports Forum' started by Max_123, Feb 16, 2019.

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  1. PeacefulOrca

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    The raiders were done with him, they wouldn't have done it otherwise.
     
  2. It's not unreasonable to expect your players to be professionals
     
  3. I think majority of blame goes on AB. No doubt. But based on what we’ve heard it doesn’t seem like Mayock did a great job either. And I’m not saying AB didn’t deserve any kind of punishment. But the team kinda knew what they were getting into when they traded for him and then let it get out of hand before week one.
     
  4. Dodger

    “The greatest teacher, failure is”

    Definitely not. I think they could’ve communicated better that he was being fined before he got the letters and before he apologized/they said he’d play Monday. Could be false but it seems like he was told he was good and then would receive those two fines via the letter/no gaurenteed money and was surprised.
     
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  5. preppyak

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    What a super random extension. Who worries about whether their punter is signed for 2023?
     
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  6. PeacefulOrca

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    I could see ravens but doesn't his cousin Hollywood play there? I feel like that along with Lamar being qb curious actually wouldn't be the best spot, then again he might really like playing the steelers twice a year so idk

    Niners could be fun, maybe. He also wouldn't have to go far.

    I would definitely trust the Seahawks the most
     
  7. Dodger

    “The greatest teacher, failure is”

    I def don’t blame Raiders for initially making the trade though. I think this was just the perfect storm of catastrophe that had to go exactly perfectly wrong that brought out the worst in Brown. Nobody could’ve forseen THIS much drama
     
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  8. CobraKidJon

    Fun must be always. Prestigious

    for the whole time I thought it was gone be bad because I thought AB wanted to get released instead of traded when he was with the Steelers.
     
  9. PeacefulOrca

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    The only thing I think is odd is that the Raiders and AB seemed to have made up and he was going to play, then the awkward video comes out and 12hrs later everything completely changed.
     
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  10. xbrokendownx

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    I think they fined him more between them making up and the video coming out last night

    could be wrong though
     
  11. preppyak

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  12. PeacefulOrca

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    Maybe you're right, there's so much stuff coming out its hard to keep track.

    But I think gruden responded to the video saying he was amused by it and he couldn't wait to see him play Monday or something late last night
     
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  14. Dodger

    “The greatest teacher, failure is”

    More importantly it seems like that last fine officially voided the gaurenteed contract and he had to earn his money week to week
     
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  15. PeacefulOrca

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  16. preppyak

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    They did.

    Late Friday night, the Raiders decided to fine Brown $215k for conduct detrimental to the team over an altercation with GM Mike Mayock on Sept. 4.

    That also voids his guaranteed money, meaning by cutting him today they owe him nothing. Even if they had kept him for 2019, his 2020 year wasnt guaranteed
     
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  17. so AB actually lost money during his brief time with the Raiders lol
     
  18. Dodger

    “The greatest teacher, failure is”

    Also on top of Incognito, Burfict, Brown, lets not forget Martavis Bryant who is still indefinitely suspended
     
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  19. morgantayler

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    Lmao

     
  20. xkj1985x

    Go Birds Prestigious

    Ok...why?

     
  21. Dodger

    “The greatest teacher, failure is”

    Yea that’s what Rap has said that that’s what Brown told him it was that everything was good and then gets the next fine and voided gaurenteed money
     
  22. xbrokendownx

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  23. xkj1985x

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  24. Dodger

    “The greatest teacher, failure is”

    AB giving more ammo for teams to refuse gaurenteed money.

    Obviously Julio’s an outlier because he’s so good but cool that Julio managed to get what he got gaurenteed in the midst of all this lol
     
  25. preppyak

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    Reading the timeline, its almost impossible not to blame it all on AB. After a month of this shit, and the dude calls you a cracker and does that stupid stuff?

    Aug 13: Brown returns to Napa, saying it was good to hear of general manager Mike Mayock and coach Jon Gruden supporting him in his absence.

    Aug. 18: In the wake of losing his first grievance to wear his preferred helmet, Brown takes off from Napa again and is fined $40,000 by Mayock for the unexcused absence. Mayock later tells reporters that it is time for Brown to either be "all-in, or all-out."

    Aug. 19: Brown returns to Napa as the Raiders break camp and head to the team facility in Alameda.

    Aug. 22: Brown and Carr put on another show in pregame warm-ups in Winnipeg, Canada, and ask Gruden if they can run one play in the game against the Green Bay Packers, a go-ball. Gruden quickly declines as neither plays in the game, which was held on an 80-yard field. Brown skipped a mandatory pregame walk-through.
    Like, finally shows, asks to play, and then throws a tantrum when told no.

    Aug. 25:Brown loses his second grievance to wear his old helmet, but agent Drew Rosenhaus insists the receiver will find a new helmet, get an endorsement deal, and play on.

    Sept. 4: Brown, who once shared on Facebook Live a postgame Steelers meeting with coach Mike Tomlin, posts to Instagram the letter sent to him from Mayock detailing his fines from Aug. 18 ($40,000) and Aug. 22 ($13,950). Brown tags the Raiders in his response, which reads, in part, "When your own team want to hate."

    An agitated Brown, who usually stretches on his own during team stretch, skips the period entirely before emerging for individual drills. He goes through them halfheartedly, taking some plays off, barks at a strength and conditioning coach and fires a football into a fence after catching a pass from Carr and jogging to the end zone. Later, Brown reportedly gets into a confrontation with Mayock on the practice field. In the locker room, Brown tells two reporters he will speak on Thursday. Later, Brown announces he has reached a deal with Xenith to wear their helmet, posting, "Most calculated move by far."
    This day was kind of wild. Goes from completely pissed to happy to ripping the GM in public

    Sept. 5: Reports break that the Raiders will suspend Brown for conduct detrimental to the team, setting the stage for a potential battle over his guaranteed money and putting in question whether Brown will ever play for the Raiders.

    Sept. 6: Brown is back in the building. The wide receiver issued "an emotional apology" at a team meeting Friday morning, a source told ESPN. Gruden issued a statement later in the day, saying in part: "Antonio is back today. We're excited about that. Ready to move on."

    Gruden said "the plan" was to have Brown in the lineup for the season opener against the Broncos on Monday night.

    Later in the day Brown posts a youtube video featuring a phone call between Brown and Gruden.

    Sept. 7: The Raiders fine Brown more than $215,000 for conduct detrimental to the team. By fining Brown, the Raiders voided the $29.125 million worth of guaranteed money in his deal, sources said. Brown says there is "no way" he plays after losing guarantees. Brown asks for his release via Instagram. At noon ET, the Raiders released Brown.

    So yeah, Id say the Raiders gave him 3 strikes...he took them all...and then they started fining him on each new incident.
     
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