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I thought the silver lining of having a Republican senator was that she would shut the fuck up but here we are in 2019...

 

Lol

 

I bet Limp Bizkit gets blamed for this too.

 

God, that took forever

 

She's polling at .3%. What exactly is the evidence people like her big idea?

 

Can't really decide who is better, Bernie or Warren - is there any hard argument to be had for one over the other? Both would lead to the changes our country needs; just not sure who'd get it done more effectively

 

If you're going to tell people not to yell, it probably doesn't help to say it in all caps either lol

 

America deserves a debate between Joe Biden and his main progressive critics

The reason Delaney — or a more plausible candidate like Bullock or Klobuchar — isn’t doing better isn’t that he can’t win an argument with Warren and Sanders.

It’s that the vast majority of the people who agree with him support Joe Biden. Reasonable people can disagree as to whether proponents of moderation are well served by having a septuagenarian Washington insider rather than a two-term Montana governor or a younger but experienced woman from Minnesota serve as their champion. But for now that’s clearly what Biden is, and you’d expect the VP from a popular and successful recent administration to be a strong candidate.

And Biden is not just a strong candidate but currently leading the race — and by a pretty large margin. The view on display Tuesday night of two New England progressives taking center stage and shooting down all comers was powerful but doesn’t reflect the actual state of the primary. The central figure is Biden, the progressives are taking potshots at him, and so far, he’s holding them off in opinion polls and dominating in endorsements.

That’s the actual state of the Democratic primary, and it’s difficult for debates to move the conversation forward unless the frontrunner engages with his main critics not on obscure aspects of 1970s civil rights policy but on the big issues of 2020. It didn’t happen in the first debate, and the structure of the second one makes it essentially impossible. That means round three, when the roster will narrow and the format will shift to a single stage, will in most respects be the first real contest of the season.

 

wtf

 

Warren is a perfectly acceptable #2.

Why the Differences Between Sanders and Warren Matter

 

Wow, a 10:1 ratio