Taylor Swift - Lover (August 23, 2019) Album • Page 38

lol it's because they just hate Taylor. People have an amazing ability to forget their own code when it comes to a female public figure they dislike. That said, my roommate dislikes her intensely but even she's able to suspend it to go "this isn't right". Lots of folks don't bother with that though.

If this was an artist they weren't determined to hate, they'd care. But here we are.

 

You’re right, and it’s gross.

 

The internalized misogyny I've been seeing on this would be heartbreaking if I still had the capacity to be surprised by it. And from people who've been mistreated by powerful men in music, too. You'd think the empathy thing would kick in - it's not like the script ever changes.

I'm not asking you to speak on that, btw. I'm just making the observation based on what I've seen.

 

If this was like the 1975 or some other beloved fave band I can't think of, the ppl would be outraged. I feel like ppl were upset when this happened to Paul/the Beatles but I don't remember as well

 

yeah I think with The Beatles is was part Michael Jackson was such a dick about it and part that they're the biggest band of all time but got fucked over because they made a contract at like 20 with no knowledge of the industry

 

Paul McCartney told Michael Jackson there was money to be made in owning the royalties to other artists music.

Michael Jackson turned around and bought the royalties to The Beatles (which I’d imagine Paul would have wanted).

Paul McCartney’s estimates Net Worth is $1.2 Billion though, and he didn’t seem to mind owning other peoples royalty rights. Just didn’t like when other people owned his (which I don’t blame anyone for feeling that way).

 

awesome

 

nightmareworld

 

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Looks like you could say the same thing about buying Dunkin Donuts, renting from Hertz rent a car, being protected made by United Defence among other things Carlyle Group seem invested in (as a billion dollar faceless publicly traded company).

Huge companies have sadly always put profits first.

 

Correct. That is the problem.

 

Taylor’s estimated net worth in 2018 was $320 million. I think people trying to make it sound like signing a kid to a record label was bad for her aren’t entirely right. That’s my opinion. I think Scott should be allowed to sell what he invested in. That’s my opinion.

I do think big business is scary and this Scooter guy sounds shady. I don’t think they broke any laws. This is a case of pride, greed, ego and the internet too though. The right thing wasn’t done. This does suck, but there is a lot worse going on in the world.

Having worked with Scott, and technically having some ownership over work I did (I signed a contract), I have no problem because I was paid fairly. If he and the other company profit millions off our work, well I feel at least I was provided the opportunity to do that work at a fair rate. I came here to really share my personal experience working with someone who seemed very business oriented and professional. Scott is hugely passionate about music, is a musician, and loved discovering new music and talent. Yeah, he found a way to profit off it, but everyone profits then that can still be a good thing. The ratios don’t always work well, but both sides can lose.

I do wonder if bands will re-evaluate the situation moving forward though, or who puts stock on what. Bigger artists stand to make more money of rights than niche bands.

 

Hey guys did you hear, this guy worked with Scott who was super duper nice to him. ... Come on man.

 

But did you also know that some things can be bad, but if you look at it a different way, it might be good?

 

Since he is part of the topic of discussion, and I have had personal experience, I shared that experience.

Discounting someone’s position because they are not of equal celebrity and wealth is sort of sad to me. To each their own I guess.

 

It has been said SO many times already, but: one person's anecdotal experience with someone is not a well-rounded view of who they are. Maybe he was the loveliest man in the world to you and a complete shitbag to someone else. You don't need to defend him so much. He isn't listening.

 

Idk I'm wonderful in all contexts. But trust no man!!!

 

Yeah tbh that post is almost entirely directed towards men, haha

 

I don't understand the MO of going into the Taylor thread and being like " the guy who fucked her over is cool"

 

He’s under contract to be respond with kind words whenever shade is thrown at Scott online

 

This problem isn't ultimately about profits. Emotional, not financial. That's a crucial detail here. This is about a young woman and the art she created and her not having any say over who controls it. It would absolutely kill me if the people who enabled my mistreatment (or the ones who enacted it personally) got to own the songs I wrote about my own life.

Legality =/= morality.

 

It had nothing to do with gender. He was lovely to an entire crew of men and women, and he was working with woman who was a lead on the project (his equal). He was working with artists of both genders. I actually felt there was a nice natural bias to the female artists because those are the artists he had the greatest success with. He actually was far more tolerant towards people than I expected in terms of artists he supported. I have worked with other executives before, and Scott thankfully put less value of artists personal appearances which was cool.

The music business and music itself are both very different.

Again, this Scooter guy could be a total jerk.

But discounting someone experiences isn’t really the right thing to do. People are capable of watching other people’s interactions with people of different ages, genders, race status.

In this case, I was working in a professional environment. I can’t and didn’t speak to what he’s like at home or in his personal life.

 

One person’s anecdotal experience doesn’t provide a well-rounded view of who they are
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Here’s another hefty serving of anecdotal experience!