Entertainment Forum General Chat Thread • Page 17

Last night, I watched the episode where Mickey takes sassafras with Andy Dick. Really like that show.

 

Haha, HBO decided to un-renew Vinyl

HBO Cancels ‘Vinyl,’ Scrapping Plans for a Season 2 Revamp

 

Glad I never watched it. Shame cuz Bobby and Terrence are great.

 

Between unrenewing that and The Brink last year, it's gonna be hard to believe in a HBO second season renewal until it's actually filming (and even that is not guaranteed, as seen by Luck, though with far different and unique circumstances).

 

Take the money they would have spent on that and make season 3 of Togetherness

 

How are the Critical Analysis threads chosen? Might I make a suggestion, have the next one be Nicolas Winding Refn to be timely with the release of The Neon Demon? (and the same for future releases of well-established and/or controversial filmmakers, like Justin Lin the week Star Trek Beyond comes out [and we could bump the Spielberg and Allen threads when BFG and Cafe Society come out])

 

It has been random and we'd love to have suggestions like this

 

I was thinking for a weekly discussion we could do movies that had poor critical reception that we love, for instance Wet Hot American Summer

 

I like it!

 

Bouncing off of that, some focus should go to women/nonwhite directors/writers/actors in Critical Analysis discussion

 

I agree.

 

i love screen junkies and cinema sins

 

Something I've been thinking about after watching The Hateful Eight and American Psycho a lot lately: What is it about watching nuanced portrayals of antiheros in movies that makes them so loveable vs someone IRL with those qualities being completely insufferable to be around?

IRL almost all of the characters in The Hateful Eight and Reservoir Dogs, several characters seen as neutral on Game of Thrones like Jamie, The Hound, Tormund, etc would make us leave the room. Patrick Bateman, Alex DeLarge and several characters from The Wolf of Wall Street are hilarious, but we wouldn't be able to stomach being around someone remotely like them IRL. Same with Tyler Durden and the Driver in Drive. But on screen we enjoy watching them and are sometimes moved quite a bit by them.

Is it the knowledge that what we are watching is a performance by an actor we'd probably love and find charming in person that makes it enjoyable? The way those movies articulate truths about those characters that help us understand and confirm why we dislike them? Is it that we are in the comfort of a theater or home, observing characters like that from a safe distance?

 

A lot of those characters are super charming, Patrick Bateman and Tyler for instance, and I think it's wish fulfilment to an extent, not like I want to murder people for the most part

 

A lot of those films are indictments of those characters, and/or satirize them, which helps stomach their horribleness a little bit. Part of it is most actors are good at their jobs and win audiences over. Part of it is a movie's job is usually to earn empathy for their characters somehow, even if they're horrible people. So the movie is structured in a way where you identify with or understand certain aspects of them that contextualize their behavior and make their actions entertaining or dramatic.

And for some part of it is wish fulfillment/getting a glimpse of a world someone might otherwise never think of/be a part of. A lot of people read Fight Club the wrong way.

It'd really, really limit the amount of entertainment we consume and the types of stories we can tell if we held every fictional character to our own moral standards.

 

I agree, and I think your answer phrased it in a way that I wasn't quite able to on my own. Definitely agree disturbing movies like the ones mentioned should not be less edgy or censored.

 

Everything involving Jesse James's death is just absolutely perfect. Brad Pitt and Casey Affleck are phenomenal.

 

I can't even imagine this
Nicolas Winding Refn Says He Turned Down ‘Spectre’ Directing Gig

 

Any other recommendations for the next weekly discussion topic?

 

Things I learned today:

James Franco and his brother are starring in a movie about the production of "The Room."
Josh Peck is playing Charles Bukowski in a biopic.

 

everything is awesome
'Lego Movie Sequel' Script to Get Rewrite From 'BoJack Horseman' Creator

 

Sequels/Remakes you'd want to see?

 

and bleh to all those lego movie spinoffs

 

I'm finally going to start Linklater's Before trilogy today.