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Totally different shows but Veep's finale was infinitely better than this

 

I’m pretty sure him petting Ghost was in one of the leaks, so if it was added in it didn’t happen just a day ago. I lost track of how recent some of those leaked details came in, so it could have been a late in the game change in theory.

And yeah I was sure that the entire building collapsed on them. That was quite a shock when he started strolling through and it was all mostly intact.

 

It truly was a Shawshank Redemption...

 

Dany’s last season plays worlds differently if this show let any women write/direct this season IMO

 

Grey worm's revenge is a BA spin off too! Go find you some more unsullied and come back with more baby dragons baby.

 

if the dragon flying scene in episode one was How to Train Your Dragon than the Daeny/Jon tragedy scene felt like a bad attempt at stage theater. im seeing talk of the "election" meeting feeling like a tonal shift but Daeny's death scene was much more jarring for me. didn't land for me at all. although the set itself was gorgeous and made me WANT A GODDAMN VIDEO GAME IS ANYONE LISTENING.

Jon's ending didn't work for me either for reasons that have mostly already been discussed at length. the dude saved the world and gave up his place as heir for the betterment of the realm but there was no middle ground to be found between knighthood and exile? if Grey Worm was slitting throats of surrendered Lannister soldiers in the streets, how did Jon make it out the front door alive?

Bran's shift is so strange. an episode ago it feels like if you had asked him what a joke was we wouldve gotten a Werner Herzog monologue about the failure of man and now he's cracking wise.

i enjoyed the season a lot overall but the finale didn't do it for me. i like that the North is it's own entity and i love the small council, that scene was great feel-good cheeseball stuff.

idk i didn't get remotely emotional at any point and that is surprising and disappointing to me

 

There were only four episodes written by women, and the last of those was in season three.

 

I got a little emotional when Tyrion was uncovering Cersei and Jaime and he was crying and angry.

Other than that, I didn't get teared up or a lump in my throat for anything else. That was disappointing, but then again I almost never got emotional during the rest of the show.

 

I wouldn’t be surprised if this was true

 

When Tyrion started smashing that brick all I could think of was that truly terrible beetle monologue and I burst out laughing. Totally took me out of such a serious moment.

 

Yeah as ruthless as Dany and Greyworm were portrayed to be for their heel turns, Tyrion is humanely arrested and allowed to talk some treason to Jon, and Jon kills the Queen and the Dothraki and Greyworm keep both him and Tyrion alive long enough to hold to not only hold a trial but they decided to get the world leaders involved and let Tyrion run the show. Tyrion ends up in the second most powerful position in the world and Jon is going back to the place he chose to go in season 1. When I think about it like that this was kind of silly. I think it would have been much better if we had one more episode that at least let us see that Greyworm kind of came to understand how dangerous Dany had become or something to give him some internal conflict on the issue.

 

but who is left for him to take revenge on?

 

That Broken Bastard and the new-found parliamentary democracy !?

 

I definitely agree this is a fair critique.

However, Tyrion talking his way out of death occurred through out the show so it wasn't overly shocking to me. Additionally, it isn't like the world leaders were some totally random jury ... they all know who he is and he is/was one of the more wiser people in the seven kingdoms. Mistakes and all.

But still ... I think more "adversity" and conflict after the stabbing of the Queen to the exile was needed to make us feel a bit more satisfied.

 

I’ve been thinking about if there were any plot points I would outright change, despite the fact that I think 95% of the issues I have with this season are more pacing/fleshed out/should’ve been ten episodes, and I’m at least happy with the fact that all of the points don’t feel false, just (sometimes extremely) rushed.

Except one: Jaime.

His goodbye with Brienne should’ve been: “I’m going to kill her to be free of her.”

I wish Cersei had been alone, watching her kingdom literally crumble around her, and then spotted him. She would’ve thought he was coming for her, but he would’ve been there to kill her.

Then, Jaime would’ve died protecting some kids or something from dragon fire near Tyrion later in the episode.

Other than that, I truly feel like the seasons being ten episodes could’ve handled the important stuff better: Dany’s descent to madness, driving home how important Bran actually is and lending more weight to the WW plot in the process (like imagine a scene where Dany’s madness is hinted at (like the Tarly’s death) and Varys goes “not again” and begins laying the groundwork for Bran to be king so that those machinations are going on as we discover Jon is a Targ, etc). And Euron....well. That could’ve been handled entirely different, but I don’t hate his madness and the way his cogs fit into the story in theory.

 

Bran’s “now he’ll spend the rest of his life fixing them” and then cutting to the scene establishing the importance of clean water over brothels was a very minor, important way to show what Tyrion was now doing to make up for the sins of his past.

We’ve loved Tyrion from the start, thanks in large part to Peter Dinklage being phenomenal let alone how fascinating the character is, that I think we forget sometimes he still needed a redemption arc, too.

 

It’s a bit tough for me to buy Grey Worm would be okay with the justice for Jon killing his queen being the Night’s Watch, something he almost assuredly has never heard of before

 

I think the further everyone gets away from this just now airing and thinking and talking about it all the time, etc... this last season will be looked back upon much better than it has been. All the online toxicity won't be nearly as prevalent and the main complaint that will stick is just it being rushed the last season or two.

I don't think it's going to be looked back upon like The Sopranos or The Wire, as far as quality, legacy, and importance though and it shouldn't.

 

Arya felt like such a confusing character this season. I love the fact that she was overcome by fear at Winterfell. It felt very humanizing. Then she goes and kills the big bad in like two seconds. Then she is just kinda there, not killing the two people she probably should have.

 

also this is some dumb minor shit but on a close up of i believe Tyrion being marched to his cell there is some obvious Unsullied bulge on one of them so you can keep your Starbucks cups and water bottles this is my I M M E R S I O N B R O K E N

 

I thought the same thing too.

 

lol

 

Euron is absolutely the worst character I have encountered so far. I read some tweets by Felix from Chapo Trap House saying Euron was written like a dipshit "Ohio guy" and I couldn't take the character seriously after that lol

 

Even just Jaime planning to kill her his entire journey so he could do what is right but ultimately being unable to do it when he sees her and it costing him his life would have been infinitely better. It would have even tied into the choice Jon had to make this episode in the same building.

 

I think in the end it will be known as a flawed, but historic show, that had an immense quality for it for the better part of its run but that it ran out of steam and was rushed to a divisive end. It is still top tier entertainment from my perspective, even if I had massive issues with it on the way out the door. Most of what happened at the end has already settled fairly well for me, but all the issues could only be resolved with more TIME.