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Honestly, the second and third times that Euron hit the dragon with the scorpion bolts in the last episode don't make a whole lot of sense now that you see a little more about how those things work. I can buy that he got the drop on them and that they did not see the ambush coming, I can buy that he is a master boater, I can even buy that he's an amazing shot and he had that first shot planned, but getting off those second two one-in-a-million shots in such rapid succession? I think it was a result of them trying to be VERY shocking and graphic with the dragon's death and to really drive home the idea that it is dead AF and not making it through.

I think one bolt hitting him hard in the chest would have taken him down and killed him even if not immediately and would have been much more logical and believable if less shocking and graphic.

 

Yeah, multiple camera angles, too:

 

Her even having a list at this point would really be a twist of the knife after everything with The Hound becoming Sandor to her and her walking away from revenge in a major way and seeing what violence looks like on a grand scale. But of course if most of the character arcs are just static or cyclical then she may definitely just go back to scheming and planning next time we see her. I just watched the preview and she’s clearly in it, so the horse feeling like an ending must have been unintentional.

 

Maybe I need to re-watch it but did we know that Euron shot the other bolts as well? I may be misremembering but I had the impression they came from different angles, meaning they were shot from different ships?

 

It’s a really insightful thread

 

Yeah, didn't you see the Cardinals game last year?

*ba dum tss*

 

That's definitely a little bit better, but even then that also really stretches credibility that the other two whoever they are randos would be just as good of a shot as Euron... Kind of a different problem still.

 

I personally never saw her taking the Hound off her list as her walking away from revenge. I just thought that she realized that certain people are redeemable, and the Hound became a far better person over the course of the show, which change was catalyzed by his time with Arya more than anything else. I mean the first thing she does when she's back in Westeros is take revenge on the Freys, I don't think she's abandoned that aspect of herself. Besides she probably views killing Daenerys as justice, not as personal revenge.

 

what effect did euron have on the story? he usurped the iron islands. that’s about it. yes, some of those characters had effects on the story that much. locke essentially kickstarted jaime’s entire arc.

 

I love that even though we are on polar opposite sides of whether or not this season has been good we can still agree on this entirely. I could have written this post word for word.

 

Well at that point Rhaegal was severely wounded from the shot that Euron landed, so it was probably easier for them to land their own.

 

god damn, loving the ARodg commentary from my comment. Bravo everyone!

 

using the RT score for the episode to say its the worst episode of the series is about as sus as it gets.

 

The fact that I'm still enjoying the show doesn't mean I can't see the flaws. I totally agree that this all has felt rushed in terms of the pacing, but I also think that they have laid everything out and set everything up, however rushed it was. It just could have been better with more episodes. And that's on them mismanaging the final seasons. In their rush to move on from this they've torpedoed the show's potential legacy. I fundamentally disagree with that approach and have really lost whatever respect I still had for them as creatives as a result.

 

I know other people have said this before but Ramin Djawadi is a goddamn force of nature. His work has been consistently incredible.

 

Also, someone with a big white dog and a fluffy fur coat needs to go out in their backyard and film a quick insert to be spliced in so Jon can pet Ghost goodbye.

 

i should clarify a buddy tried to use the imdb score. so RT isn’t the absolute worst. second worst isn’t great though.

 

I took it as kind of a "she became the dragon" kinda thing.

 

I was referring to her walking away from Cersei this episode. He couldn’t get beyond his blind rage and need for revenge, but she could. Killing Cersei wasn’t actually something she needed at the end of the day when her life was at stake to make it happen. She had to really look her own humanity in the face in that scene with him, and human costs in general were shown to her over and over and over again once she left. I’m not really sure what we will have learned about her character if what she saw in KL doesn’t change her in any way.

 

I'm almost positive there's a closeup on Dany's face after the bells ring and she's surveying the city and you can see her mentally click to destroy it even more.

 

I'm not crazy about Dany's decision, but maybe it'll play better once/if we get the final books and get some of her internal monologues to help frame her changing mindset. Provided that's actually something she also does in the books, of course. My biggest issue with it at the moment is similar to the other issues I had with that episode (and most of the last two seasons), all of which seem borne out of haste to conclude the show quickly. We're no longer seeing any journeys, whether literal or figurative. Rather, they've mapped out their destinations (maybe just a list of bullet points from Martin himself), and are just showing us those. Part of what makes this world so enjoyable is experiencing all of those journeys with the characters. It makes it feel lived-in, and episodes like A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms feel much more earned. But, it is what is. They're still getting people to tune in, and Weiss & Benioff can move on to the next project.

 

This should be required reading.

 

tbh this whole thing could have been avoided by having a damn ROYAL RUMBLE for the throne

 

man can you imagine the pop if after all this time Lady Stoneheart showed up at #30?

 

Even if that was her deciding to discard her own personal vendettas and petty vengeance, I don't think her going after Daenerys is "vengeance," it reads more like justice for her crimes. Arya's desire to kill Cersei was never about justice for Cersei's crimes, it was about what Cersei did to Arya and her family personally.