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Why ignore the whole context of what I said? I was annoyed by her part in the episode and expected more from her character if she was going to be a focal point. So yes, the part where she had no plan and then just ends up falling down a few times annoyed me. Some of those scenes did look pretty cool though.

 

I don't mean to be all negative either. I don't like where the story went for the most part but the episode was quite a ride. Aside from the action, I thought the scene with Tyrion and Jamie in the tent was excellent. I actually thought Jon Snow's scenes were really good, which is not something I usually think.
Euron... well at least he's dead.

 

Jon's little speech last week was literally one of the only times I've liked his character so I'll give him that. Last episode he just looked dumbfounded. Rightly so - he knows nothing.

 

A good assassin uses the environment to their advantage. Nobody knows what Arya looks like, or if she’s even alive anymore, and the the city is in complete chaos. Nobody cares if the Hound is in the city, they’re too busy running for their lives. The easiest way into the castle was to blend in with the crowd scrambling to get in.

 

I agreed with everything you said leading up to that. Not sure where her deciding to turn back at the last minute or her being able to sneak up on TNK impacts her falling either way is all.

 

LOL at Jamie just arriving 15 people too late to his own castle.

 

it’s a much better show haha, yes

this is kinda something i was thinking about earlier. people keep trying to frame it in a “best tv ever” convo, which it’s never at any point of its run been a part of. it’s certainly near the “biggest” ever, but i don’t think anyone would honestly put it in a top 5 hbo series even. so comparing it to sopranos, the wire, deadwood even, etc. has always been a little silly to me.

 

do we really have to say “A kills D?” are we really fooling anyone with what A or D could possibly stand for? damn i can’t wait for azor ahai to kill davos!!!!

 

I was just expediting my posts - like the series. No need to be thorough anymore.

 

lol great post

 

That’s a big reason why I said last night that how you frame the show has to be playing a big part in how satisfied you are. If you’re still watching it as if it’s the best series ever or in the same tier as the best character dramas of all time, I totally get the anger and the interest in breaking down every specific failure. But if you’re watching it as a big budget popcorn action movie with a good score, arguing about how it fails on a narrative level seems like a waste of time.

The Cersei during Cleganebowl meme really is perfect for it. The Mountain is fans who love the show and will defend it against any criticism, The Hound is fans who defended it for the whole series but have turned on season 8 and are freaking out, and Cersei is someone like me who had major major problems from the start who is staying out of it now and just wants everybody to have a good time and be friends.

 

Reading different criticism and praise for this episode or this season and comparing them to how I felt about them is so odd, haha

Like, there is probably supporting canon for nearly every decision but sometimes it works for me and I love it or it doesn't and I just roll my eyes.

I'm just glad that I'm able to enjoy the "good" parts and ignore the stuff I don't like, so it's been a fun ride, including keeping up with this thread.

 

I don't feel the need to weigh in too significantly, so I'll just say that I enjoyed the episode, it frustrated me in a (mostly) good way, and I've liked this season a lot so far, especially compared to season 7 (which I enjoyed, but it had very clear issues). Excited for next week and not ready for it to be over.

 

I think it's much easier to live on without "needing" it on Sundays anymore after waiting so long for this season. Truthfully, there was a brief period of time when I forgot it was even coming and I felt nothing lol

 

Eh you don't have to watch something as if it's the best story in it's medium ever to be frustrated with its choices. Whether it's an MCU movie or Citizen Kane, Star Wars or Claire Denis, Harry Potter or Terrence Malick, you can engage with the onscreen text on the terms it establishes for you and it can work or not work or be some combination. I don't buy just accepting that it's not a capital G Great show and altering your expectations.

 

She'd just helped save the north and her main takeaway from it was that they were ungrateful and less than willing to bend the knee to some foreign rando who showed up out of nowhere. She expected to be loved and revered, but most of her experience there was just people seeking to undermine her claim to the throne. The only respect she's able to generate is through fear(which means it's tied to the health of drogon and therefore ultimately pretty fragile). When Tyrion is attempting to convince her not to nuke the city, she's viewing it through that prism; that liberation itself is not going to compel these people to her rule, that only fear will accomplish that. She'd lamented mercy as her biggest weakness beforehand and vowed to make it a strength. She didn't 'snap' and start behaving out of character, it was all well reasoned in her mind.

 

This was a great episode for me. Once The Night King and the White Walkers were defeated (IMO) rather more quickly and easily than I thought they would be, the show was always going a different way than I would have personally taken the story. The fantasy and supernatural elements were always my favorite part of the story.

Inside the logic of the episode itself, I didn't really understand why Dany started just lighting up all the civilians with dragon fire and levelling the city itself. A suicide run on The Red Keep itself kinda woulda made more sense to me...

 

Battle of the Bastards is still the best battle I think

 

Also Euron has to be unanimously the worst character in the entire run of the show.

 

he isn’t. y’all remember seasons 1-5 right? locke? karl? rast? fucking janos slynt? it’s like all of you started watching the show this season lol.

 

Many people did lol AND THEY LOVE IT

 

Janos Slynt was the worst, way worse than Euron

 

Pirate Bam Margera is definitely a top 3 worst character no question.

 

ED SHEERAN

 

While I agree with you on this about 99% or so, I think there's something to be said on both sides as blindly accepting/praising every decision as well as people seemingly hate-watching it to complain about every. single. thing. ad nauseam.