Thrice - To Be Everywhere Is To Be Nowhere (May 27, 2016) Album • Page 134

Quit being so god damn condescending, to me it's their best and shows Thrice at their best.

 

I want an advocate to tell me what ground 'Illusion' broke...I'm not sure if I see any contextually

 

Music Box is unbelievable. Tom DeLonge, intentionally or not, used a similar music box intro to lead an AvA song just a year after.

I never thought much of it until Eddie joined the band for a video shoot.

 

Well since it's all subjective, the notion came from my ears lol. Hearing the ending to Dust of Nations, The Earth Will Shake go from bluesy to heavy, moody For Miles before it kicks into the epic outro, it makes it hard to compare it to an stripped down album that sounds like a lot of the indie rock that was/is popular these days. It sounds like I'm trashing on Beggars, but I love it and would call it a 10/10. Just not comparable to their best work.

I'm the opposite in reasoning to why I would hesitate to show someone new to beggars first. Instead of leading them to think they were just another soft indie rock band, even if it's miles ahead of what's out there, I'd show them Artist first so you have it all.
Rippers like Silhouette, Paper Tigers, The Abolition of Man, Under a Killing Moon.
Softer catchy rock songs like Stare at the sun, Melting Point and Artist.
Faster paced rock songs with almost a punk feel like All That's Left and Cold Cash.

 

Your "objective" thoughts are still subjective. The only objective thing we can all agree on are that they are Thrice albums. Quit talking down to all of us like we're stupid. I couldn't care less what the majority of Thrice fans think.

 

RE: Illusion's critical reception/ be objective lol

album has like 4 reviews mostly on sites no one cares about

 

Y'all cats are acting like Deadbolt isn't on that album.

 

Thrice is a band with alot of bad fans too haha

 

Today is Thrice day for me!

I am going to try desperately to get out of work early and arrive at the venue early enough to get one of those tour variant vinyls. Wish me luck.

Oh what a day, what a lovely day!

 

So is Five Finger Death Punch......whats your point?

 

I hope you were spraying your face gold while typing that.......

 

It's agreed then, Illusion wins, sorry guys.

Play me out, teppei.
0-7-00-5-00-3...

 

Deadbolts not even in the top 5 on that album much less the best, that riff is one of the best Thrice has ever composed though

 

It's posts like this why I'm running red lights asleep at the wheel at 4am.

 

Didn't Teppi say in an interview that the riff was written on an acoustic and sounded country until they took it seriously and translated it to electric?

 

that no one cares what the band's fans prefer and there is no correlation with that and quality or critical reception and that conflating that is strange and funny especially in a niche sub genre

 

I don't think I've ever heard that but it sounds plausible. Playing it on acoustic it sounds much different. Very twangy. I've heard he writes a lot on acoustic and then they move over to electrics.

 

Illusion is my second least favorite Thrice album. It's one of the two I almost never listen to.

 

The only thing that isn't opinion is that the members of Thrice liking Vheissu the best. That doesn't mean anything though like it's been stated, just like fan's opinion it's all subjective. Saying not to look at music subjectively makes no sense. I'm been arguing my opinion for why I think it's the best over Beggars, but I'll never say it's fact and nothing more than my taste.

 

If I had said that my favorite Thrice record, Beggars, was their best, most career-defining record per the fan/peer/critic consensus, everybody would argue (to no end) that Vheissu is their best record per the popular opinion.

If you want to argue that Vheissu is NOT their most influential/career-defining/most diverse/best etc. album per the consensus of fans/critics/peers, please make a case, with points, as to which record has that distinction, pound for pound (if you don't think it's Vheissu).

But saying how you prefer another record to Vheissu (like I do) does not invalidate my points that the majority of fans/musicians/critics, if polled, would choose Vheissu as Thrice's best, most career-defining, most influential, most diverse, most complete record... pound for pound.

Despite being my favorite, I can't make a compelling argument for Beggars being their most career-defining, most influential, most diverse and best record. It's Thrice at its core, stripped down to their bare bones. When weighing all the factors (pound for pound), Vheissu tops it in most places.

Again, even the band feels that Vheissu is their crowning achievement (pound for pound).

In a few years, that could all change thanks to TBEItBN, especially since it's charting so well. It's also introduced new fans to the band. But as it stands right now, their best work, pound for pound, is Vheissu. And it took time for its legacy to become apparent.

That may not make it my favorite or your favorite record, but the point still stands when considering the majority.

 

This is how Sunbather was written, too. Seems like a surefire way to create a masterpiece.

Yes and Illusion of Safety has Deadbolt.