Thrice - To Be Everywhere Is To Be Nowhere (May 27, 2016) Album • Page 133

the years of touring and being humble have made him who he his today. mr.kensrue

 

vheissu is a slog in between its critical cuts

 

i remember listening to Vheissu after Artist and being dissapointed...but it is actually a very good album that i will occasionaly put on.

 

I have a feeling we have very different tastes in music

 

guys guys, come on. Illusion is the best Thrice record by miles

 

They played Stay With Me just before Dashboard came on stage tonight. Song is so huge.

 

the earth, the wind, the fire.

 

Comparing Vheissu and Beggars objectively is hard for me. These two albums are in different eras of the band, in my mind. I remember them talking recently about Vheissu as the beginning of the 'second era', and the new album being the beginning of the 'third era', and I get that but I also see it a little differently. I see Vheissu and TAI both being hinges in the band's discography - the first moreso echoing their older sound, the second giving a better glimpse of their future direction - and Beggars then is the beginning of the new era of Thrice, completely detached from any preconceived ideas of the band was. I'm pretty sure people who were into them before I Beggars might see it differently - that's the first album I heard - but that's naturally how I think about it.

 

hahahaha.

 

What songs would you consider slog? Just curious.

It's an amazing album, a serious argument could be made actually lol

 

Can't be overstated. For every Of Dust and Nations there's a Music Box.

I think my personal favorite is probably TAITA.

 

I'd take Music Box over any track on TAITA.....including Silhouette.

 

Music Box and Silhouette are my top two thrice songs so I'm feeling really attacked right now.

 

no no, it wasn't meant that way. I love Music Box, it's definitely one of my top 3 Thrice songs. And Silhouette occupies a top 5 as well, hence the "even Silhouette" part. Just saying that I was disagreeing with the negativity towards M.B. so much so that it trumps even Silhouette for me. You're in good company friend.

 

Don't be. I'm pretty sure like myself, most people in here like every thrice song. It's just when we are talking favorites or ranking, of course it's going to sound negative.

 

(It was a joke)

 

the tense nature of this thread has forced me to make sure nobody feels attacked or upset in here.

 

Just realized I forgot to put "honestly" in that phrase which makes it look a lot less like I'm referencing the meme from a few months(/years?) ago.

 

Where did this ridiculous notion, that a stripped down album is somehow inferior by default, come from? For example, the reason David Gilmour is such a great musician and has penned some of the most emotional guitar solos of all time, is because they are simple. Stripped. He is doing so much with just a few notes. Sometimes less is more.

I agree that Vheissu is their defining work, in the sense that it told the world that they were willing to evolve their sound and wouldn't be put in a box. But just because it's the most important step of their career, doesn't necessarily mean to should be considered their best effort.

To me their earlier albums is like a person going through puberty. On Vheissu the person is starting to become an adult. And Beggars, well... Beggars is a grown ass man.

I hesitate to give Beggars to newcomers, also, but for an entirely different reason. I'm scared that if they start with Beggars and enjoy it, they are bound to be disappointed when digging further into their discography. The thing that's made Thrice so great to me has always been the progression, and it's hard to get people to understand this by simply playing a single album.

PS. Just because you preface a statement with "objectively speaking" doesn't make it so. This is music after all.

 

Silhouette is sick. I guess my main gripe with Music Box is that it feels a little gimmicky, due to the whole, yano, Music Box.

 

in the context of their discog its the least stripped down/homogenous, along with alchemy. so lol at what they said

 

I've always liked Music Box, but my appreciation for it grew after I watched the film that inspired the lyrics, For All Mankind. It's footage from all of the manned missions to the moon, narrated by the astronauts who went there. I highly recommend it.

 

Illusion was groundbreaking.

It allowed an entire genre to reach the mainstream.

Does it have great songs? Yes.

Is it their best record? No.

Is it the best reflection of Thrice's entire body of work? No.

Everyone, please try and separate yourself from your own subjective taste and look at things objectively.

What would the majority of current fans choose? Combine that with their peers as well as critics.

Even Riley considers it their best/career-defining/most influential/most timeless record.

 

are all of the above Mike J's opinions? Yes.

 

Anyone else besides @scottlechowicz going to the show in Chicago tonight?