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I really hope that happens, do we really need another battle at King's Landing by ship? Pretty sure the same shit will happen as Blackwater.

Like I said yesterday, Dany is far too strong right now, anyone she goes up against wouldn't have a chance, so there is no way GRRM would even write it that way.

I don't care what happened with the old dragons, they didn't have Dany and the Dothraki hanging around.

 

There are only a couple of scenes from Bran's vision we haven't seen - the Wild Fire roaring through that corridor, and someone's hand next to what looked like a dead, bloody body.

 

After next episode I think the world will really start to move close together again and we will start to see how it might all end.

 

I liked the episode a lot more on the second viewing. Besides the imbecility of Jon's approach and the silliness of Ramsey's perfect aim at 300 yards (yet not taking Jon out ), the actual battle scene was extremely well done.

It reminded me a great deal of Band of Brothers, as far as the grittiness and hyper-realism.


Genuine question, though: when arrows are being shot with that kind of arc, can they really penetrate someone's skull? Even with the sharpness of the point, I would think that a certain amount of weight and velocity would be required to get through two walls of bone.

 

Even if Kings Landing is still a thing when Dany gets to Westeros, I wonder if she wouldn't want to rule from Dragonstone.

 

My knowledge of long bows is pretty limited but I know the force they fire with is pretty impressive, coupled with the downward arc increasing its velocity, maybe? The distance between them seemed flexible on my one viewing. (maybe it was a Valyrian steel tipped arrow or something too, which would be insane but could explain it)

I also think Ramsay really just wanted Jon to see rickon die, thinking his plan would kill Jon soon no matter what as well

 

Haven't seen anyone mention it, but I'm glad Theon had nothing to do with Ramsay's death, at least not directly. It was much more satisfying to see him die as a result of battle, then ultimately by Sansa.

 

I think maybe we're saying the same thing. the letter we saw Sansa writing was to Littlefinger, and then we saw her letter to Blackfish on-screen.

 

Ramsay's attention was turned North at the time towards the Wall, and Moat Cailin is unoccupied in times of peace, for the most part. He had no reason to expect an invasion from the south, so probably didn't have anyone keeping an eye on it.

 

do we see WW's this episode or nah?

 

I'm on the other side: I never really felt that the Ramsey/Sansa story line was that compelling, partly due to lack of screen time: because of how expanded the plot has become, very few of the interpersonal story lines have been compelling during the past two seasons. Joffrey/Sansa was a much more developed and more natural feud.

Conversely, the Theon/Ramsey story line is extremely developed and completely changed the trajectory of Theon's character and introduced Ramsey.

 

The difference I'm pretty sure I noticed that gave it away was the letter to Littlefinger was a smaller scroll we saw Sansa writing in private, and the letter presented to the Blackfish was a full page.


Also, they slipped in a big confirmation of a theory everyone was talking about before this episode. Tyrion consulting Dany early on in the episode confirmed that the Mad King told Jaime he had wildfire stored all over King's Landing underneath the city. Surely this is what Cersei had Qyburn look into, and though I don't believe Cersei is gonna blow the whole city up, she'll most definitely set the church ablaze. Can I get a hallelujah?

 

I mean, we knew there were two letters from the start, since Brienne left with the Blackfish's before she even wrote Littlefinger's, right?

 

Euron is an interesting character because he's being set up as a major player and new villain but it's so late in the game and almost nothing of interest has happened at The Iron Islands since season 2 until this season. I'm curious to see what role he plays in the remaining episodes.

Also, one of the major villains - Walder Frey - is still alive. Without the Blackfish to go at him I'm wondering what his fate is. The episode 10 preview shows him and Jamie in that infamous dining room toasting to the Red Wedding.

The neat poetic thing about Ramsay's death though is not only the battle against him led by one of the most noble characters in the show, but how Sansa was ultimately the one dealing out the justice and how it was all because Theon rescued her from death in Boltonfell and led her to safety. He was definitely the catalyst for Ramsay's satisfying death and Winterfell being restored and returned to The Starks.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, maybe Ramsay being eaten to death by his own dogs was a bit of a metaphor beyond the obvious one. Theon was, for all intents and purposes, Ramsays abused attack dog, and it was him turning on his master that ultimately led to Sansa escaping, informing Jon about Winterfell, and then Ramsay's downfall.

 

I'm hoping the BwB still take on the Freys, even without LSH.

 

Not sure how or why it would happen, but it'd be crazy/awesome if Jaime had his troops kill the Frey's in their house as revenge for what they did for the Starks.

He has no motivation to do it though, sadly.

 

My favorite part of this episode was Jon blocking Ramsey's arrows with his shield like a badass.

 

Plot twist: Daenerys finally sets sail for Westeros, but a huge storm comes and wipes out all her ships and she dies

 

It would be very GRRM-ish to have all the Dothraki drown in a storm the very first time they, as a whole, ride ships.

 

that's what I would have expected had her first army made it that far. idk with her second one, though. it would just seem like an "oh well, there goes another dothraki horde" moment for Dany.

 

The only reason I preferred Sansa is because Theon was a piece of shit and deserved at least most of what he received. Sansa on the other hand was a complete innocent, taken advantage of by a monster. Then again we're talking about a typical "female getting her comeuppance on an abusive man".

 

In a female empowering episode, it made sense that Sansa was the one to kill Ramsay considering what he did to her, that was the trope the plot followed.

 

Sansa's is so much more than just that though. Sure, she's taking out revenge on Ramsay, but you gotta believe that her time with Joffrey has also led her to this. It's not just one abusive man who raped her, psychologically abused her, and destroyed her home. It's also about the man who killed her father and also psychologically abused her

 

Not to mention that she's continued to be an intriguing character throughout the series. She was young, immature, starry-eyed, and bratty at first and she quickly learned first-hand that its a cruel world with steep consequences. Through her own stubbornness and willingness to lie for what she thought was personal gain, she ended up losing her direwolf and her father in short order. Then her sister disappeared, her mother and oldest brother died, her dream of becoming queen fizzled, and she found herself in ever increasing danger. She's probably spent a whole lot of the show absolutely hating herself, and largely blaming herself for so many things that have happened. I think this past episode we saw her finally rid herself of the hate and close what has been an awful chapter in her life. She's now back home, with her family's banners hanging again, and she smiled. Sansa has finally come into her own, and she has a plethora of experience to guide her as she moves forward.