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ya Anthem looks fucking sick that's I think the least of its problems haha

 

Working through my backlog as I wait for Devil May Cry 5. I’m about halfway through Final Fantasy X HD and.....that game doesn’t hold up as well as I remember. The story isn’t great and the voice acting is really terrible. The battle system is still awesome so I’m enjoying myself, but feeling extremely old.

I also went back to finish Undertale and holy shit that game. I’m almost through the Pacifist run right now, about to fight Mettaton. So unlike anything I’ve ever played before and constantly surprising. Reminds me of Nier Automata in how the story is presented.

 

Nah, that was pre-rendered. That game looked way too far along to be a work in progress, it was basically a mock-up of what they were aiming for. E3 is notorious for stuff like that.

 

Example

 

(I worked in the industry for over a decade)

It is not uncommon to present a vertical slice of a game that represents the vision of the developers that is fully functioning and playable on speculatively specc'd hardware.

Pre-rendered trailers usually refer to stuff like the Killzone 2 reveal.

 

Sorry, my man. What part of the industry do/did you work for?

 

I worked for EA (hehe) in linguistics/translation services then I worked for Sony in marketing. Was dope. Would recommend both.

 

Did you get paid in swag?

 

haha no I was fairly compensated for every hour I worked. Both were actually rather stingy with swag or free games lol

also I went back and took a look at that anthem trailer and they don't specify a platform so it was probably running on a SLI'd 1080ti setup with plenty of post-processing after the fact.

 

E3 trailers are like car ads, you can make any car look cool with the right stuff and games are no different.

 

Lol that Killzone 2 reveal is hysterical in retrospect.

 

I was so hyped on that back when

 

Killzone 2 and Halo 2 were the big ones but that stuff was insanely rampant in the previous two generations. It's good that the industry has moved away from doing it, but it also means that the new thing is to say "Running In-Engine" which now also means absolutely nothing.

 

dude the same car with 2" smaller rims can look like ABSOLUTE GARBAGE lol

not-graphically, but style wise I much prefer the finished products. One of my favorite multiplayer shooters of all time.

 

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: downgrades aren’t a big deal

 

Yeah I mean I don't think they are either, especially because with the internet and YouTube being so prevalent now you can very clearly see exactly how a game is going to run before you buy it. If you buy something based solely on reveal trailers alone and then are disappointed with it then that's kind of on you as an uninformed consumer lol

 

In engine doesn’t actually imply as much as many people think it does. That’s both on the companies, because they are very aware of that and probably like it that way, and also on consumers because it’s been a thing for so long now that you’d figure they’d have figured it out by now.

 

If you literally carve out what is essentially a corridor of a game's open world, polish the hell out of it, and then tightly script what happens in it, of course it's going to look amazing even running "in-game" on a console. The weird thing is, anyone who is likely watching those reveals at something like E3 is also likely well aware of this trick and thus it would have no effect on them. So it's literally just done for the possibility that somebody who isn't as clued in sees the footage on YouTube or something and gets fooled for a bit. But then when the game is about to come out they'll see what it really looks like anyway so in the end it's all for nothing other than a chance at a brief initial hit of buzz.

I usually look at E3 reveals as proof-of-concept footage anyway, so I'm not concerned with the visuals as much as I am the art direction, game design, and the actual gameplay itself. Graphics and performance are something that can only be judged at the time of launch so the fancy visuals kind of just go in one eye and out the other for me that early on.

 

Yeah and also the difference between the final game running on a high end PC, and Xbox One X and a base PS4/Xbox will often be pretty huge. Of course they’ll show the betters versions.

 

that's what's called a vertical slice which I mentioned above haha

 

I know, I'm kind of just breaking it down explicitly for rhetorical effect.

 

Well fwiw you did an extremely awesome job.

 

is it just me or dose the division 2 already look like its going to be better then the 1st one? i know the first one got a lot better after launch but it seems like 2 will be better then the first one ever got at launch

 

the impressions from people who are "serious" Division players would corroborate your claim.

 

some Ni No Kuni DLC coming soon.