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There's also this
http://m.mentalfloss.com/article.php?id=31176

 

Here are the figures for gun violence in 2016 so far:

Total number of incidents: 23,843
Number of deaths: 6114
Number of injuries: 12,514
Number of children killed/injured: 259
Number of teens killed/injured: 1308
Mass shooting: 141
Accidental shooting: 1059

Gun Violence Archive

How anyone can see these figures and say "oh guns aren't a problem" I have no idea

 

Yea, there are always these stories of kids getting their hands on a gun and shooting either themselves or someone else, and it isn't right, these parents need to get their acts together.

I grew up with two correctional officers in the family, both of whom were trigger happy gun collectors (my aunt and uncle). I started shooting guns from the time I was like 10; handguns, rifles and even an AK47 that my uncle got some how. My uncle was always standing right next to me showing me what to do, that's more that some of these dumbass parents are doing.

 

Because when they're optional, people (especially paranoid people who think the government is out to get them) don't do them. If the gun manufacturer makes them standard, they get used.

 

The idea of a 10-year-old shooting a gun is absolutely bat-shit insane to me, as someone from the UK

 

They probably got banned because the military/police force don't use them.

 

If not taking the proper precautions, for sure I agree with you.

 

a child holding a gun is crazy, regardless of precautions

 

It's worth noting that the Mass Shooting number includes injuries and not only deaths.

 

what if as a start to gun control / security measures:

people who owns guns for hunting (rifles and such) had to keep their gun at a secure, non-home location? like some sort of universal bunker or something. especially since most hunting seasons are only a few weeks or months long, it gets high powered weaponry out of houses where it can be stolen or made readily available when someone snaps or is extremely drunk / pissed off.

i know it's not an end-all be-all answer, and there isn't necessarily one, but i could see even something like this making people super, super pissed off. my uncle being one of those people who hunts a lot and owns tons of guns for hunting but... if it's not hunting season... why need the gun around? bad analogy, but people who have sports cars for summer - they keep them in storage during winter / crappy weather months (most). and usually this is not in their garage, but at an off site facility. why not the same for hunting weaponry?

 

Yea I've heard this before. Since I'm not a hunter I can't comment directly, but the hunters that I know personally will not leave their weapon in some other place for months on end.

If they HAD to, then that's a different story.

 

it's certainly not a perfect solution, it has its flaws.

* what if someone broke into the facility? now they have all these guns!
* where would it be?
* what happens if someone damages my gun?!
* why bother owning my twenty seven awesome guns if i don't get to look at them while naked in my bed fondling myself?

 

Well lets take a look/mass shootings in past 30 years:
Orlando Shooting (2016) - US Citizen/Afghan background - Sig Sauer MCX .223/45 rounds a minute = 49 dead
VA Tech Shooting (2007) - South Korean Immigrant - Glock 19 pistol/Walther P22semiautomatic pisto = 32 dead
Sandy Hook Shooting (2012) - US Citizen/White - BushmasterXM15 Rifle .223-caliber = 26 dead
Texas Cafeteria Shooting (1991) - US Citizen/White - 9mm Glock 17 pistol/9mm Ruger P89 pistol = 23 dead
Columbine Shooting (1999) - US Citizen/White - 67H Pump-Action Shotgun/311D double barreld shotgun/Hi-Point 995 carbine = 13 killed
San Bernardino Shooting (2015) - US Citizen Pakistani Background/Pakistani Saudi - AR-15 Semi Auto/9mm semi-auto pistol = 14 killed
Binghamton Immigration Shooting (2009) - Vietnamese Background - 9mm Beretta 92FS Vertec/Beretta Storm .45 caliber = 13 killed
Fort Hood Shooting (2009) - US Citizen/Raised Muslim/US ARMY! - FN 5-7 Semi Automatic Pistol = 13 killed
NAVY Yard Shooting (2013) - US Citizen/Black - Remington 12 gauge shotgun/beretta 9mm semi-auto pistol = 12 dead
Aurora Movie Theater (2012) - US Citizen/White - Smith & Wesson M&P15 Rifle/Remington Shotgun = 12 dead
Charleston Church Shooting (2015) - US Citizen/White - Glock 41.45 caliber handgun = 9 dead
Wisconsin Sikh Shooting (2012) - US Citizen/White - Springfield XD Semi-Automatic Pistol = 6 dead

sorry if the labeling of ethnicity and race comes off insensitive. I was just trying to make a point.

 

Just noticed that Canada doesn't require registration of long guns (rifles).

 

It's worth noting that 475 people were killed in mass shootings last year, as well as 1870 injured

 

Lots of handguns on that list.

 

If parents aren't stepping up to practice gun safety then it is on the manufacturers to boost that. If they don't, it's on the government to enforce it. If they can't, guns, probably shouldn't be in civilian hands.

 

The hunting lodge in any given hunting area could have a rule that says "weapons must be checked in during the off season".

 

See: willful ignorance

 

Since I made that post about gun violence figures in 2016 about 10 minutes ago, the number of deaths has gone up to 6115 and injuries to 12,516.

 

The "Britain first" thing and one or two other elements that are being reported widely are apparently up for debate between different witness accounts, but it's hard not to wonder when it's an MP being attacked right outside their surgery a week before a vote.

 

this isnt even remotely every mass shooting of the last thirty years.

 

I read an article in the independent earlier about how Britain First would be targeting Saddiq Khan. They are a group we should be seriously concerned about.

There's no justification for what took place today. It's just so bizarre.

 

it's not? these were all the ones I saw with 10+ dead

 

I believe a mass shooting involves more than one person shot, not necessarily dead.